Endura 4 ZDP-189
Endura 4 ZDP-189
I was gonna order my first knife from the Delica-Endela-Endura family in VG-10 when i noticed there was one Endura 4 ZDP-189 left in stock at my dealer.
Does someone have experience with ZDP-189 here? Is it worth the $30 markup at my dealer?
Does someone have experience with ZDP-189 here? Is it worth the $30 markup at my dealer?
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Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
Yes and yes.
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Yes, I have one and definitely feel it is worth $30 more than the VG-10. I'd carry it if I weren't limited to a 3.5" blade. Besides, they won't be found anymore making it a soon to be scarce model. I'm trolling the interwebs right now looking for a ZDP Stretch 2 that I decided I have to have!
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Ordered. Always wanted to try ZDP-189, and the Endura (might be a bit long but eh, more knife is more knife).
I received my first Griptillian today (sheepsfoot), and immediately decided to return it, I'm decidely not made for the ergos and grinds of some brands... At least i'll have just a bit to put out to get that sweet endura 4.
@z1r there was one at my dealer up till a month ago, I should have ordered it, the Stretch 2 looks like a better (for me) Manix 2 !
EDIT: they still have it, certainly a return? I don't see how they would get more XD but it's another 40€ more, it's starts to stack up. 178€ must be like $200
I received my first Griptillian today (sheepsfoot), and immediately decided to return it, I'm decidely not made for the ergos and grinds of some brands... At least i'll have just a bit to put out to get that sweet endura 4.
@z1r there was one at my dealer up till a month ago, I should have ordered it, the Stretch 2 looks like a better (for me) Manix 2 !
EDIT: they still have it, certainly a return? I don't see how they would get more XD but it's another 40€ more, it's starts to stack up. 178€ must be like $200
In the collection : Lots of different steels, in lots of different (and same) Spydercos.
Robin. Finally made an IG : ramo_knives
MNOSD member 004* aka Mr. N5s
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Congrats, you will love both the knife and the steel!
I'm planning a wild pig hunt this winter and even though I carry a fixed blade skinning knife, it dulls quickly after skinning a couple of pigs and having a stretch in ZDP would be the ultimate backup knife.
I'm planning a wild pig hunt this winter and even though I carry a fixed blade skinning knife, it dulls quickly after skinning a couple of pigs and having a stretch in ZDP would be the ultimate backup knife.
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Now I'll just be lacking s90v and k390 hehe
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Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
The ZDP Stretch 1s are hard to find, I know.
Not so the HAP40 ones. Different steel of course, but no slouch too...
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Personally, I'll take VG-10 over ZDP-189 any day. ZDP-189 definitely holds an edge longer than VG-10, but then takes longer to sharpen and is also less rust and stain resistant than VG-10 so I don't see any real advantage to it.
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Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
I have an endura zdp and really like it. Recommended. Some will argue that there's better steel out there now but it sharpens without needing diamonds and holds an edge for a long time. If k390 is a Ferrari then zdp is a 350z. Maybe not as fast but still rips!
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I have to respectfully disagree. I won't argue that VG-10 is more rust resistant, but ZDP isn't exactly easy to rust. I use my ZDP DF2 for cutting fruit all the time. When I'm done, I clean the blade and no discoloration yet. Not sure VG-10 is exactly easier to sharpen, but it sure is easier to reprofile. That said, once proper edge profile is achieved, regular maintenance keeps it slicey sharp for a good bit longer in my experience.The Deacon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:28 pmPersonally, I'll take VG-10 over ZDP-189 any day. ZDP-189 definitely holds an edge longer than VG-10, but then takes longer to sharpen and is also less rust and stain resistant than VG-10 so I don't see any real advantage to it.
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I’ve had two Endura models in this steel and never encountered any issues as long as I did my part in maintenance. Still have a Stretch CF in ZDP189 and it still is one of my very favorite knives from Spyderco. I would check around Z1R they are available. Either model in this steel is a great addition to a collection and or use . MG2
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I like ZDP a lot, it reminds me some of XHP, one of my favorite steels ever. I have the Delica and Stretch 2 in ZDP.. both have been on hunting trips in Alaskan rain forest and emerged rust-free and still sharp enough to dress more bucks. Buy with confidence.
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Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
I didn't find out / realize that they made the ZDP Endura in FFG and a Saber Grind. Do they still make them both?
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I’ve been wanting an endura in zdp for a while and all this talk of it becoming discontinued finally made me place an order.
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Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
I have one. It's a great knife and a great steel, hard to beat for $100 brand new! (thanks G&R Tactical for the 30% off!!!)
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I have 28 Spyderco knives (growing by the month) and the Endura is my long time favorite. My FFG ZDP189 Endura is absolutely superb!
In fact if I could only have 1 edc knife for the rest of my life it would be my green FFG ZDP189 Endura.
Buy it!
In fact if I could only have 1 edc knife for the rest of my life it would be my green FFG ZDP189 Endura.
Buy it!
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Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
Don't think so, BBS seems to be the only one still offering HAP40 Spydies (not only the Stretch), I got my HAP40 Stretch from them.
They do pop up on eBay though occasionally, that's where I got my HAP40 Endura for a decent price.
As for "dealer not shipping to Europe":
You could use an US forwarding service. An account there is for free, you get an US post box adress where a dealer can ship items to, and they'll forward it to you for rather low cost (of course you have to consider taxes/tariffs of your home country too).
There are several such services, I've used "myus.com" in the past Worked just fine, but forum brother Micha/Archangel (Germany) told me some time ago, that now they charge a lot more for sending knives.
I just send them a message what the current policy is concerning knives, if you like I can get back to you with that info.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
Re: Endura 4 ZDP-189
I only wish they released the Endela in ZDP189 but helas... it's too late now
Marius
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