Favorite Factory Scales

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.
User avatar
kennethsime
Member
Posts: 4950
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:28 pm
Location: California

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#41

Post by kennethsime »

Evil D wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:30 am
I really like that micarta Shaman a whole lot. I could probably have every knife I own made in a similar way with the rounded scales and I'd never want for anything more.
Yea, this man. 100% this.
I'm happiest with Micarta and Tool Steel.

Top four in rotation: K390 + GCM PM2, ZCarta Shaman, Crucarta PM2, K390 + GCM Straight Spine Stretch.
skeeg11
Member
Posts: 1541
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#42

Post by skeeg11 »

Since my two favorite knives are the Mantra 2 and the SpydieChef, one might conclude that titanium is my favorite handle material. Some say titanium is slippery when wet, but I haven't found that to be much of an issue since the ergos fit my hand very nicely. Japanese FRN has a HUGE following. The main criticism being that it may be inherently susceptible to lock rock in its most recent iteration of lightweight salts unless the tolerances are spot on. I personally would like to see more linerless textured G10 on American made Salts like my Siren.
User avatar
Wartstein
Member
Posts: 16577
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:06 am
Location: Salzburg, Austria, Europe

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#43

Post by Wartstein »

skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:09 pm
Since my two favorite knives are the Mantra 2 and the SpydieChef, one might conclude that titanium is my favorite handle material. Some say titanium is slippery when wet, but I haven't found that to be much of an issue since the ergos fit my hand very nicely. Japanese FRN has a HUGE following. The main criticism being that it may be inherently susceptible to lock rock in its most recent iteration of lightweight salts unless the tolerances are spot on. I personally would like to see more linerless textured G10 on American made Salts like my Siren.
Actually it was not lock rock, but side to side play that seemed to occur a bit more often in the latest (ffg) lightweight Salts, or actually perhaps just in the Pac Salt 2 ffg - ?

Lock rock in my experience is something that most Seki FRN Spydies (with or without liners) do have anyway to a certain (normally just very slight) degree.
No issue at all functionally speaking imho, but it does bother some (not me though)

The few Golden FRN backlocks and of course the Taichung Chap FRN did not have any perceivable lock rock though (perhaps I could have provoked one in an not-real-use related test, don´t know).
Top three going by pocket-time (update April 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10), Chaparral SE (CTS XHP)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Endela SE (K390)
vivi
Member
Posts: 16041
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:15 am

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#44

Post by vivi »

skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:09 pm
Since my two favorite knives are the Mantra 2 and the SpydieChef, one might conclude that titanium is my favorite handle material. Some say titanium is slippery when wet, but I haven't found that to be much of an issue since the ergos fit my hand very nicely. Japanese FRN has a HUGE following. The main criticism being that it may be inherently susceptible to lock rock in its most recent iteration of lightweight salts unless the tolerances are spot on. I personally would like to see more linerless textured G10 on American made Salts like my Siren.
The Siren has worse lock rock than any other Spyderco lockback though?

Personally I've never handled a Spyderco lockback with zero play.
skeeg11
Member
Posts: 1541
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#45

Post by skeeg11 »

vivi wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:45 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:09 pm
Since my two favorite knives are the Mantra 2 and the SpydieChef, one might conclude that titanium is my favorite handle material. Some say titanium is slippery when wet, but I haven't found that to be much of an issue since the ergos fit my hand very nicely. Japanese FRN has a HUGE following. The main criticism being that it may be inherently susceptible to lock rock in its most recent iteration of lightweight salts unless the tolerances are spot on. I personally would like to see more linerless textured G10 on American made Salts like my Siren.
The Siren has worse lock rock than any other Spyderco lockback though?

Personally I've never handled a Spyderco lockback with zero play.
Perhaps I got lucky with my Siren as I asked my supplier to check for this. My serrated LC200N Pac Salt 2 not so much. TBH the absolutely tightest lock backs I own are linered serrated Byrds. The Hawkbill and Cara Cara Rescue. Virtually no play in any direction and I'm talking about really leaning on 'em. How they do that for that kind of money is beyond me. Drop shutty to boot! I'm actually OK with 8Cr13MoV for serrated blades. The bar for budget steels is being raised and Sal is paying close attention. It will be interesting to see if Sal goes with some 9Cr or in another direction.

I carry my serrated LC200N Pac Salt 2 when I'm fishing for stripers in the surf and love its performance, but if my Siren had teeth, that would change.
vivi
Member
Posts: 16041
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:15 am

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#46

Post by vivi »

skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm
vivi wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:45 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:09 pm
Since my two favorite knives are the Mantra 2 and the SpydieChef, one might conclude that titanium is my favorite handle material. Some say titanium is slippery when wet, but I haven't found that to be much of an issue since the ergos fit my hand very nicely. Japanese FRN has a HUGE following. The main criticism being that it may be inherently susceptible to lock rock in its most recent iteration of lightweight salts unless the tolerances are spot on. I personally would like to see more linerless textured G10 on American made Salts like my Siren.
The Siren has worse lock rock than any other Spyderco lockback though?

Personally I've never handled a Spyderco lockback with zero play.
Perhaps I got lucky with my Siren as I asked my supplier to check for this. My serrated LC200N Pac Salt 2 not so much. TBH the absolutely tightest lock backs I own are linered serrated Byrds. The Hawkbill and Cara Cara Rescue. Virtually no play in any direction and I'm talking about really leaning on 'em. How they do that for that kind of money is beyond me. Drop shutty to boot! I'm actually OK with 8Cr13MoV for serrated blades. The bar for budget steels is being raised and Sal is paying close attention. It will be interesting to see if Sal goes with some 9Cr or in another direction.

I carry my serrated LC200N Pac Salt 2 when I'm fishing for stripers in the surf and love its performance, but if my Siren had teeth, that would change.
Try pressing the Sirens edge hard into a cutting board.

viewtopic.php?p=1497735#p1497735

Image

I'd love zero play lockbacks but even with some play they're still my favorite lock.

Wonder if they can do CBBL salts?
skeeg11
Member
Posts: 1541
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#47

Post by skeeg11 »

vivi wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:30 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm
vivi wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:45 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:09 pm
Since my two favorite knives are the Mantra 2 and the SpydieChef, one might conclude that titanium is my favorite handle material. Some say titanium is slippery when wet, but I haven't found that to be much of an issue since the ergos fit my hand very nicely. Japanese FRN has a HUGE following. The main criticism being that it may be inherently susceptible to lock rock in its most recent iteration of lightweight salts unless the tolerances are spot on. I personally would like to see more linerless textured G10 on American made Salts like my Siren.
The Siren has worse lock rock than any other Spyderco lockback though?

Personally I've never handled a Spyderco lockback with zero play.
Perhaps I got lucky with my Siren as I asked my supplier to check for this. My serrated LC200N Pac Salt 2 not so much. TBH the absolutely tightest lock backs I own are linered serrated Byrds. The Hawkbill and Cara Cara Rescue. Virtually no play in any direction and I'm talking about really leaning on 'em. How they do that for that kind of money is beyond me. Drop shutty to boot! I'm actually OK with 8Cr13MoV for serrated blades. The bar for budget steels is being raised and Sal is paying close attention. It will be interesting to see if Sal goes with some 9Cr or in another direction.

I carry my serrated LC200N Pac Salt 2 when I'm fishing for stripers in the surf and love its performance, but if my Siren had teeth, that would change.
Try pressing the Sirens edge hard into a cutting board.

viewtopic.php?p=1497735#p1497735

Image

I'd love zero play lockbacks but even with some play they're still my favorite lock.

Wonder if they can do CBBL salts?
I have and I don't get that.

I am very fond of lock backs, too. I forgot to mention that the very first lock backs whose build quality really impressed me and are every bit as tight as the Byrds I have are the Gerber mid lock backs. They were made by Gerber Sakai or G. Sakai. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............could that be the very same Seki City company that makes Spyderco Salts? :winking-tongue
Bill1170
Member
Posts: 2985
Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:34 pm
Location: San Diego North County

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#48

Post by Bill1170 »

I’m right there with Vivi and Wartstein. Fibered composites tick the most important boxes for me in a folder I’ll actually use. Wood and bone are lovely and have good hand feel, but require more care than I want to give a work knife/EDC,

Titanium is beautiful in a gentleman’s knife, but it (like FRN) needs to be textured for grip. Metal handles are elegant but not so practical in a working knife because slick, heavy, cold/hot, etc. I have a lovely Kershaw Leek somewhere, but even in a suit I’d rather carry an FRN Delica.
User avatar
AH80s
Member
Posts: 271
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:38 am

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#49

Post by AH80s »

G10 by a long way. Everything else is dependant on rest of the knifes desirability. FRN only if it had liners, pretty much don’t look at anything in FRN though.
Andrew
skeeg11
Member
Posts: 1541
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:45 pm

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#50

Post by skeeg11 »

Vivi---

BTW I forgot to ask. Why haven't you sent that Siren in to W & R? That pic is painful to see. I wish I could un-see it.
User avatar
Bolster
Member
Posts: 6017
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:27 pm
Location: CalyFRNia Desert

Re: Favorite Factory Scales

#51

Post by Bolster »

NOT the smooth woven carbon fiber scales.

All the others, I like.
Post Reply