S7 Large Camp Knife
S7 Large Camp Knife
There's been some fixed blade talk recently, and I mentioned how I'd like to see Spyderco try S7 in a large chopper sized fixed blade. Here's how the steel looks:
Supposedly used for jackhammer bits.
I've used it in the 9" Scrapyard Dogfather for a decade. In my experience with that knife, its hands down the toughest steel I have ever used. Takes a tremendous edge and grinds pretty easily. Will rust easily and won't slice cardboard as long as the high edge retention steels, but its attributes work well in a camp knife.
According to zknives Carpenter has a variation called S7XL
Would anyone else be interested in seeing a chopper sized fixed blade from Spyderco in S7?
I was thinking something in the 9-11.5" range.
Supposedly used for jackhammer bits.
I've used it in the 9" Scrapyard Dogfather for a decade. In my experience with that knife, its hands down the toughest steel I have ever used. Takes a tremendous edge and grinds pretty easily. Will rust easily and won't slice cardboard as long as the high edge retention steels, but its attributes work well in a camp knife.
According to zknives Carpenter has a variation called S7XL
Would anyone else be interested in seeing a chopper sized fixed blade from Spyderco in S7?
I was thinking something in the 9-11.5" range.
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Tbh: Never heard of S7, but I trust 100% in your experience and assessment.
So: A large Spyderco Chopper in a really tough steel? YES. :)
So: A large Spyderco Chopper in a really tough steel? YES. :)
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S5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
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I haven't tried S5 before. Do you know of anyone making tools with it?Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pmS5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
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NSM sells it, I've been too busy to try, but the stats are better, I don't think S5 is as common and it may cost a little more so perhaps that's why we don't see it.vivi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:25 pmI haven't tried S5 before. Do you know of anyone making tools with it?Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pmS5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
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That's like saying Blue Man Group guy 1 gets so much more publicity than Blue Man Group guy 3.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pmS5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
S5 and S7 both get no love.
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Haha yeah :DRp5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:32 pmThat's like saying Blue Man Group guy 1 gets so much more publicity than Blue Man Group guy 3.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pmS5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
S5 and S7 both get no love.
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https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/10/22/ ... toughness/
vivi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:25 pmI haven't tried S5 before. Do you know of anyone making tools with it?Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pmS5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
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S7 is an ideal SHTF chopper and one of my favorite steel/knife category combos. Great minds... The Tusker knives are made from S7, have you seen those?
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Re: S7 Large Camp Knife
If you ever decide to try it out keep me in mind!Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:32 pmNSM sells it, I've been too busy to try, but the stats are better, I don't think S5 is as common and it may cost a little more so perhaps that's why we don't see it.vivi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:25 pmI haven't tried S5 before. Do you know of anyone making tools with it?Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pmS5 gets no lovez it's tougher than S7 but S7 gets all the love
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Great Scott! Now THAT is some tough steel! S5 at 59 Rc, wow. I am hoping for a tough-steel lightweight or skeleton that I can use for backpacking, but a Mule in these tough steels would do nicely. Thanks for bringing S7 and S5 to my attention.
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I like the idea, but I fear it'll be out of my price range in the $350-400 range. Hard to beat an ESEE Junglas or similar for $125. Then again, perhaps I just don't do enough chopping to warrant the higher price tag and performance.
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I have no idea what a hypothetical 9-11" S7 Spyderco would run, but the Dogfathers were around $200 I believe. Not bad compared to all the 1095 knives of similar size in the $100-150 range. Like the RAT9 I compared the Dogfather to.kennethsime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:52 pmI like the idea, but I fear it'll be out of my price range in the $350-400 range. Hard to beat an ESEE Junglas or similar for $125. Then again, perhaps I just don't do enough chopping to warrant the higher price tag and performance.
One of the advantages of S7 over 1095 is it can support thinner edge angles while staying stable chopping and batoning knotty hardwoods. I run my Dogfather with a 15 degree edge, never had it chip on wood.
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For me, not a chopper, but I'd be interested in either S7 or 5160 from Spyderco in normal knives, or a return of AUS-6 or 440A, assuming the easier grindability lowers the astronomical current prices.
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I had a .33 inch 6 inch knife in S7. Probably the toughest knife I've seen. I got rid of it more because of the design than any failing with performance. Wear resistant it isn't and it's not a high hardness slicing steel but it's very good at what it does.
I've wanted to try an S5 knife for a long time. I believe it would suit my needs better. It's rare to see custom makers who use it.
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I've wanted to try an S5 knife for a long time. I believe it would suit my needs better. It's rare to see custom makers who use it.
Joe
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Same! One of the things I was talking about in the Spyderco machete thread.
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That S5 is crazy tough at 56-58.5 hrc.
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Does anyone know where you can buy S5 in something that would be even close to the thickness for a blade?
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Scott Gossman makes incredible bushcraft knives with S7. If you can afford it and be lucky enough to find one.