I’m going to go get one now. I will post thoughts either later tonight or tomorrow. Never been steered wrong by you sir!vivi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:34 pmI've been raving about these stones for a while. I like them enough I just picked up another one. I needed to stop in Harbor Freight for some more hammock ropes. I'm going to use this one exclusively for sharpening, and the old one for reprofiling knives.
If you get one I'd try to buy it in person. Some of them fit more snug in the base than others. My first is a little tough to pull out, this one is smooth. Also on one I checked out today one of the rubber pads on the bottom fell off.
They're just cheaply made chinese diamond plates, but they're a great value. 4 diamond plates for $12. The 200 grit side reprofiles fast, like a DMT XX Coarse. The 300 grit side is what I've been using for my toothy edges, like that Police 4 K390 I'm struggling to dull past shaving sharp within a month.
I highly recommend trying one of these out for coarse, toothy edges that really grab a hold of what you're cutting. If you don't like the edge they give they're still a nice, economical solution to hogging off steel and setting a thinner bevel before cleaning up on higher quality stones.
Nice looking edge! Glad it gave you good results. I haven't gotten shaving sharpness off the 200 side, but the 300 gets me at least hair scraping sharp, and a bit of stropping gets it to cleanly shaving. These edges are fun to use!PStone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:27 pmOk. So I only live a mile from harbor freight. Went and picked one up, and reprofiled my Hap40 Endura. Pretty impressive for only $13.04 w/tax. A little smaller than I’m used to for a reprofiling stone. I use a Norton coarse crystolon 4”x11” usually. The 200# is extremely coarse. Couldn’t get a hair popping edge off that. But did cut back my bevel very quickly. The 400# is still pretty coarse, but easily gave me that sticky sharpness and really pops hairs off my arm. And that’s all I used. No strop yet even. I’m very happy with the results I got so quickly. Literally an hour total to go get it, pick a knife, do the work, and type this up. Thank you for the recommendation Vivi! I too urge everyone else to try one if they can.
Hey PStone, that edge certainly looks like it’ll cut and nice to see another coarse edge, either ways.
Thanks man! It’s definitely a different edge than I get off either my coarse Norton SiC and Doublestuff CBN. Waaaay more bite to it.
Hey Bloke. I don’t flatten it. But I have noticed a drop in performance like you mention. I do battle burrs sometimes. I always figured I was using to much pressure. So I lightened up my hands and seemed to fix that issue. But my bevels tend to have a bit more convexing now than they used to. I assume I’m not holding my angles consistent enough throughout my alternating strokes, since I’m making so many more now(lighter pressure).Bloke wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:30 pmHey PStone, that edge certainly looks like it’ll cut and nice to see another coarse edge, either ways.
I only have a little bit of HAP40 in a Delica. I reprofiled it when I first got it to a 1200 Venev bonded diamond at around 28deg or a little less and a couple of light swipes on the SharpMaker fine rods at 40deg left a hair whittling edge (Thanks, Gringo.). Which is great but it’s not the the most useful edge. And, and for what it’s worth I don’t use a 40deg micro bevel on anything anymore.
With the SiC stone you mention ... do you dress/flatten the stone? ... it’s a simple process and you only need a little loose grit SiC, a sheet of glass and some water. It flattens, cleans and “resharpens” the stone all in one hit which I feel is extremely important as the sharper the stone the less burr it is likely to push. So I always start with a fresh stone. I refresh as required and always finish the final swipes with a freshly dressed stone.
I have the IM313 oilstone setup from Norton. I think it’s the same 80 grit you have, a 120 med, and a fine 400 India stone. I don’t have much experience with diamonds, but can’t believe the difference in grit ratings.vivi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:00 pm
Exactly my experience. I have an 80 grit norton Crystalon stone, DMT X and (in the past) XX Coarse, Congress 120 grit EDM stones, diamond sharpmaker rods and many other low grit options. The edges I'm getting off this humble $12 stone cut so aggressively I've stopped using anything else on my PE knives, aside from my more polished chef knives.
PStone, I’m fairly sure Gritomatic sell loose grit SiC powder in various grit sizes.PStone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:03 pmHey Bloke. I don’t flatten it. But I have noticed a drop in performance like you mention. I do battle burrs sometimes. I always figured I was using to much pressure. So I lightened up my hands and seemed to fix that issue. But my bevels tend to have a bit more convexing now than they used to. I assume I’m not holding my angles consistent enough throughout my alternating strokes, since I’m making so many more now(lighter pressure).
Where can I get loose powder? Would my local hardware store have it?
I went there to grab some cheap survival stuff like their $10 wool blanket, some rope, drop cloths etc. Strolled down their sharpening aisle and saw this stone for $12. Went in with low expectations and was surprised to find it become a cornerstone of my sharpening setup. It's fun seeing the edges others are getting with them. Once you give it a shot let me know what you think!
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