Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby curlyhairedboy » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:24 am

There's also makers who are willing to do re-blades. Maybe look into that?
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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby nerdlock » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:30 am

nerdlock wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:35 am
Oloung1 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:43 am
rabbitanarchy14 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:43 am
i would like to try vanax and even in a pm2, but not with titanium.
I enjoy the exploratory questions on the Vanax steel despite production costs but I am still confused on a "dive" knife made of titanium scales. Lock designs aside, can some of the coastal and underwater users educate me on the benefits titanium scales other than water swelling?

I freedive/snorkel during my free time (living in a tropical country, though too busy nowadays), and diving knives are useful for a lot of things, like in our case, they are useful in freeing marine wildlife from fishing lines and castaway nets. Sometimes they are used also for picking and hunting down CoTs (crown of thorns starfish), a very deadly coral eating starfish that reproduces quickly and can destroy a reef in a short time. I haven't used my Spydiechef for these tasks mainly because the untextured titanium poses a risk in losing the knife while down deep - aside from the fact then when I got mine, I had no time anymore for freediving/snorkeling. If we are talking folding diving knives, FRN is a much cheaper and better option, and the Salt series of knives are the best for these applications.

Although based on experience, the best knife for underwater in my limited experience are fixed blades.

Apologies for quoting myself, just adding a few images of me snorkeling with some sea turtles (awesome creatures!) - I don't have a knife with me here in these images, but trust me that there are several instances in which these creatures have been found with fishing lines and / or nets strangling their necks. When you're down there with only one breath, the complexity of opening a folder, then using it underwater is much more complicated than it looks like above ground. This is why in my experience, a fixed knife is much, much better underwater - no fiddling with locks, just sheath and unsheath.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby The Meat man » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:35 am

^Very cool, nerdlock! :cool:
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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby Carlito555 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:41 am

I would like a native 5 in vanax and titanium...too many pm2's in my personal collection. Wouldn't a mule cost even more since it's full tang?

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby pm2og » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:02 am

Carlito555 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:41 am
I would like a native 5 in vanax and titanium...too many pm2's in my personal collection. Wouldn't a mule cost even more since it's full tang?
Native 5 LW Salt is a favorite of mine so a Vanax Ti would be great.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby The Mastiff » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:35 am

No interest in Vanax or really expensive Titanium PM 2's.

I did just order the Teal S90V Native ltwt. as well as the LC 200 Pac Salt. There are any of a bunch of knives that would be more useful to me than an expensive PM 2 of mediocre performance.

If the OP has as many people interested as he thinks maybe he should crowdfund his perfect model and have it made instead of trying to invest Spyderco's resources on a limited interest model of not great performance. There are lots of models that are stainproof already at much lower cost.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby sal » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 am

Hi Pm2og,

Well the thread certainly did light up in a short period of time, not to mention bringing in some new folks.

So first I'd like to welcome:

Dyrestraiz, Baconswagfl, Chrisoclm, Jddelval, JasonBeatty, Timechaser, Mikid and Maxfactor.

Thanx for joining and for sharing your thoughts. I hope you enjoy your time here.

I've been told that the cost for Vanax has gone down from the $70's to the $50's. I'll discuss it with Eric.

sal

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby ItsHef » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:02 am

sal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 am

I've been told that the cost for Vanax has gone down from the $70's to the $50's. I'll discuss it with Eric.

sal

That’s a start! 🥳

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby aicolainen » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:07 am

The Mastiff wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:35 am
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If the OP has as many people interested as he thinks maybe he should crowdfund his perfect model and have it made instead of trying to invest Spyderco's resources on a limited interest model of not great performance. There are lots of models that are stainproof already at much lower cost.

Joe
Constructive criticism is valuable. This looks nothing like it.

Since when was more options a problem? Most knifes aren't for me, probably not this one either, but that's hardly a problem for for anyone.

He is not investing Spyderco's money, he's pitching an idea (for free, as far as I can tell). If they like it, it would be their choice to go along with it, and it would ultimately be their investment.

If the PM2 is the OPs favorite folder, he'll be hard pressed to crowdfund his own version without running into IP issues, but that's hardly his biggest problem if that was a viable option.
Wanting to see your favorite folder done in a specific variation is actually miles apart from wanting to start your own knife company, come up with a viable knife design, find a US OEM that can produce it to your spec, promote it, sell it and support it. That's like starting a completely new life.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby pm2og » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:11 am

sal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 am
Hi Pm2og,

Well the thread certainly did light up in a short period of time, not to mention bringing in some new folks.

So first I'd like to welcome:

Dyrestraiz, Baconswagfl, Chrisoclm, Jddelval, JasonBeatty, Timechaser, Mikid and Maxfactor.

Thanx for joining and for sharing your thoughts. I hope you enjoy your time here.

I've been told that the cost for Vanax has gone down from the $70's to the $50's. I'll discuss it with Eric.

sal
Sal,

That is awesome and thank you for looking into it. I know many dealers have asked about doing it as an exclusive and that is fine but I would love for it to have the option of being a regular production similar to Maxamet. I say this because there is some concern for the ability to get one if it is limited. If there is an exclusive with a dealer I would love to see it being a continuing exclusive like Rivers Edge Avocado PM2. Thank you so much for looking into it.

-Josh

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby Jddelval » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:22 am

sal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 am
Hi Pm2og,

Well the thread certainly did light up in a short period of time, not to mention bringing in some new folks.

So first I'd like to welcome:

Dyrestraiz, Baconswagfl, Chrisoclm, Jddelval, JasonBeatty, Timechaser, Mikid and Maxfactor.

Thanx for joining and for sharing your thoughts. I hope you enjoy your time here.

I've been told that the cost for Vanax has gone down from the $70's to the $50's. I'll discuss it with Eric.

sal

Sal thank you so much for the warm welcome. Spyderco is by far my favorite knife brand and your willingness to interact on these forums is awesome. Thanks for being willing to even consider/discussing what to many would be a “grail PM2”.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby thomasomoore » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:36 am

I am totally on board with a Vanax knife particularly a PM2 as the platform and it would be a huge hit on many levels. From a marketability standpoint the demand for this steel is much bigger than people realize by both collectors and people interested in just trying out the steel regardless of knife maker. Jasonbeatty and I performed a survey of over 900 members of a PM2 dedicated Facebook group of what would be most desired material people wanted to see on an exclusive knife and Vanax was far away the most requested steel.
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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby Buddafucco » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:41 am

That shimmer of hope amongst all the negativity! Sounds like a little win for Josh's quest. I love the action on my copper PM2, but the weight keeps it from being carried more often. Titanium would solve this. And I haven't been that interested in the other super stainless steels because of the lower edge retention. Vanax would help with that. This sounds like a winning combination.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby sal » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:47 am

Hi ItsHef, Thomasomoore,

Welcome to our forum.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby Murk » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:54 am

I totally agree about adding a line of vanax blades to the collection

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby JasonPoteete » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:55 am

You can count on at least one sale here.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby steelcity16 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:57 am

sal wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 am

I've been told that the cost for Vanax has gone down from the $70's to the $50's. I'll discuss it with Eric.

sal

Interesting. I wonder where a G10 PM2 Salt in Vanax would fall MSRP-wise compared to say the Maxamet PM2? :confused:

I'd be semi interested in a G10 (or even LW FRN since we can all assume a PM2 LW is imminent) PM2 Salt in Vanax if it was under $250 MAP. I have zero interest in a Ti version though.

My vote would be straight to a mule and then a Pacific Salt sprint with neon GITD bright pink scales after that. 100% serious. And Satin and TiCN options on the sprint for good measure.

If you want to troll the troller, you could always do a PM2 with the American flag on the blade and maybe something like a Scuba flag wrapped in a sea serpent on the Ti scales since OP's memes really point out how much he loves the CO flag PM2. :D
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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby KJKeyserSoze » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:03 am

Progress, sounds great! I will be anticipating with my money ready :D

Pm2, slysz bowie(2), para3. I'm sure whatever folding design, it will be well received !

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby FullFlatMind » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:09 am

A Vanax Slysz Bowie 2 sounds good. Very good.

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Re: Vanax PM2 Lets Do This!!!

Postby Leobhern » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:11 am

I like the idea of a vanax pm2 and would definitely pay the price for it. I hope it happens! :)


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