Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

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Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ejcr98 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:37 am

Lately I have been getting more into day hiking. I live in an island in the Caribbean and my hikes are mainly to humid or wet forest areas with a lot of streams, small ponds and rivers. Thus corrosion resistance is fairly important to me.

I am looking into getting a small fixed blade for my hikes. I want it to be fairly sturdy with as much corrosion resistance as possible, since the blade will get wet or humid for several hours during the hikes.

I looked into the Enuff but the only rust proof version is serrated and in sheepsfoot. The drop point and the leaf blade are in VG-10. Not sure it will be rust resistant and tough enough.

With the inclusion of LC200N into the Seki line of knives (like with the Pac Salt 2 in the new Reveal), I was wondering if an LC200N PE Enuff is a possibility.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby Doc Dan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:49 am

That would sell me.
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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby Wartstein » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:53 am

ejcr98 wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:37 am
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I looked into the Enuff but the only rust proof version is serrated and in sheepsfoot. The drop point and the leaf blade are in VG-10. Not sure it will be rust resistant and tough enough.

With the inclusion of LC200N into the Seki line of knives (like with the Pac Salt 2 in the new Reveal), I was wondering if an LC200N PE Enuff is a possibility.
In my use VG10 is practically 100 % rustproof. I carry and use my knives a lot in wet and sweaty conditions, but I don´t live no where near saltwater (!)

For me the Enuff is a great design, but, well, just not "enuff" when it comes to bladelength / length of cutting edge (0.5 to 1 " more would do it for me!)

Have you looked into the Waterway? Sure a lot larger than the Enuff, but that imho is not a drawback at all if carried on the belt.
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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ejcr98 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:48 am

I did look at the Waterway but it’s longer than what I am looking for. It’s also a thinner blade and I wanted something a bit more robust.

Originally I looked at the Esee Candiru and Izula bit they are in 1095, which is not really rust resistant.

I have some knives in VG-10 and they are fine for when I am in the city, but when I have taken them out hiking, if I forget to dry them off afterwards they develop some rust, although nothing major. I am interested in the LC200N because its much more maintenance free and it is tougher than VG-10. H-1 would be fine too if it was available in a PE drop point or leaf blade configuration.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby Abyss_Fish » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:09 am

I know new enuffs (which better be called “more than enuff”) are on the way. Since the salt series appears to be moving into lc200n across the board I wouldn’t be surprised if the new “more than enuff” salt is in lc200n.

And of course I’d be all over it :)
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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ejcr98 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:18 pm

I read something about the new Enuffs. I think they are going to make the blades longer and thinner. For me, that defeats the purpose of the Enuff’s original concept, which is to have a blade just long enough and robust enough to handle most survival/camping tasks. Sort of like an Esee Izula 2, which the current Enuffs are very similar in size to.

I had rather they keep it them as they are size wise and just improve the steel. But I am sure Spyderco knows more than me about what works best and what sells best, so they must have valid reasons for the change.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby cycleguy » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:57 pm

Although nothing I'm interested in, I'm thinking this is a really good suggestion for the Enuff. Apparently there is no Spyderco small fixed blade serving this niche (stout short highly corrosion resistant blade). A LC200N Enuff (with green frn handle?) would do it; just wonder how big the niche is? A LC200N Enuff 2 would be a better match for my uses, so hopefully we eventually get to see both.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ejcr98 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:48 am

I am guessing there is a fair enough market. The Esee Izulas are great sellers and they coat them to avoid corrosion everywhere except the edge. I think the Enuff compete directly with the Izulas. I am guessing they are made in VG-10 because when they were introduced to market LC200N was not used or not used a lot and because the Japan factory traditionally only worked with Japanese steels. Both those things have changed now. I don’t know what the price difference between VG-10 and LC200N is, but I can’t imagine is too significant to make a change to LC200N not viable.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby mikey177 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:05 am

If you were looking at the Izula, check out the Esee Xancudo fixed blade or the similarly sized White River Knives Backpacker Pro, both in S35VN.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby sal » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:04 am

Hi Ejcr,

So if I'm reading you correctly, you want a LC "leaf" Enuff with the same 2.5" blade with the thicker blade stock?
The Enuff 2 is 4.0" blade with thinner stock.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby JRinFL » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:43 pm

sal wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:04 am
Hi Ejcr,

So if I'm reading you correctly, you want a LC "leaf" Enuff with the same 2.5" blade with the thicker blade stock?
The Enuff 2 is 4.0" blade with thinner stock.

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I read it that Ejcr wants the leaf plain edge in LC200n, being that the sheepsfoot SE Salt version is not meeting their needs nor is VG-10 of the other models.
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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ugaarguy » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:44 pm

What about a plain edge ARK? If you could get by with a folder, there's the Native 5 LW Salt with LC200N in PE.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ejcr98 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:25 pm

sal wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:04 am
Hi Ejcr,

So if I'm reading you correctly, you want a LC "leaf" Enuff with the same 2.5" blade with the thicker blade stock?
The Enuff 2 is 4.0" blade with thinner stock.

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Sal, hi.

Yes, you are reading me right. I want the current Enuff in leaf or drop point but in LC200N PE.

To me, what I understood to be the point of the original Enuff model, which was to have a blade just sturdy enough and long enough to handle most tasks, made perfect sense. I am sure that for some a longer thinner blade makes more sense, but to me it sort of defeats the purpose for my intended use, which is to have as small, sturdy, tough, and corrosion resistant a blade as possible for day hikes in very rugged but wet/humid environments.

By the way, spent the whole day today at the beach with nothing but the LC200N Native Salt PE and the DF2 Salt SE. What great knives!

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby ejcr98 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:42 pm

mikey177 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:05 am
If you were looking at the Izula, check out the Esee Xancudo fixed blade or the similarly sized White River Knives Backpacker Pro, both in S35VN.
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked the Xancudo but it’s thinner and has a less wide blade profile, so I think it’s less robust than what I had in mind. Also, I checked a video and the Esee guys broke one of their S35VN knives. I am sure they abuses it more than I would and Esee has a lifetime warranty, bit jot sure the Xancudo S35VN is what I have in mind.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby sal » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:27 am

Hi Ejcr,

I'll look into it. Might have a green handle?

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby Dazen » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:54 am

sal wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:27 am
Hi Ejcr,

I'll look into it. Might have a green handle?

sal

Does that mean all green will be LC200N!?

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby sal » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:52 am

Hi Dazen,

That's the plan for now.

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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby JuPaul » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:25 am

Awesome. Love the green, can't wait for the lc pac salt and more options to come. SE Hawkbills, please!!! 🤞🤞
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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby VooDooChild » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:33 am

Dazen wrote:
sal wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:27 am
Hi Ejcr,

I'll look into it. Might have a green handle?

sal

Does that mean all green will be LC200N!?
I wonder if the caribbean and native salt will change color?
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Re: Enuff Drop Point/Leaf in LC200N PE

Postby captnvegtble » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:56 am

I'm excited for this knife. I really like the Enuff ergonomics, but the small thick blade limits use for me... even 0.5 inches longer and a little thinner would make this a real winner!


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