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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby SteveMidwest » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:23 pm

Spyderco always seems to be full of surprises! :D

Mine arrived today, with Date Code 'LS' (Dec. 2019) :rolleyes:
A friend of mine got his in today as well. His is Date Coded 'GT' (July 2020)

What could be considered even more surprising? The box is labeled: "Manix Pln Frn REX 45"
Historically, and in Reveal 4. This has been a FRCP handled knife. I wonder if this has changed, or, is this a label typo?
I went through some of my other Lightweight Manix 2 knife boxes, and see no mention of either (FRN or FRCP), on any of those boxes. :spyder:

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby attila » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm

I noticed the FRN vs FRCP discrepancy as well. I was going to call, asking about that, but I didn’t get around to it this week.

It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.

I plan to post a picture comparing them to old and new burnt orange G10, as well as the FRN and FRCP, if possible tomorrow.
Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP Cruwear Manix

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby Sharp Guy » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:52 pm

attila wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm
It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.
I actually like the color better than the HAP40 sprints. It's little more vibrant
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby attila » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:58 pm

Sharp Guy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:52 pm
attila wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm
It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.
I actually like the color better than the HAP40 sprints. It's little more vibrant
I absolutely agree.
Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP Cruwear Manix

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby Tucson Tom » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:29 pm

Thanks for the heads up gentlemen. This will be only my second FRN knife. My first is/was a Native 5 with maxamet.

It is odd too. When I was brand new to Spyderco, I handled an FRN Manix in a sporting goods store and was delighted by how it felt in my hand. Didn't buy it, but proceeded to buy quite a few G10 Manix knives, so this is sort of coming full circle.

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby Tucson Tom » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:29 pm

steelcity16 wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:07 am
Still no screw construction... :confused: :(

I was hoping the delay was for some CQI to move these to screws. Bummer. My wallet lives to fight another day.
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby SteveMidwest » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:19 pm

attila wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm
I noticed the FRN vs FRCP discrepancy as well. I was going to call, asking about that, but I didn’t get around to it this week.

It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.

I plan to post a picture comparing them to old and new burnt orange G10, as well as the FRN and FRCP, if possible tomorrow.

I look forward to those pictures, attila.

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby attila » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:10 am

SteveMidwest wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:19 pm
attila wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm
I noticed the FRN vs FRCP discrepancy as well. I was going to call, asking about that, but I didn’t get around to it this week.

It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.

I plan to post a picture comparing them to old and new burnt orange G10, as well as the FRN and FRCP, if possible tomorrow.

I look forward to those pictures, attila.
I took a picture of 4 of 6 burnt orange examples. I have new Golden FRN, new FRCP, new smooth G10, and used peel-ply G10. I forgot to include the original HAP40 Seki FRN and new peel-ply G10. That’s why I didn’t post the photo yet, but I’ll post what I have. I’ll just update this post/thread once I get a full team photo.

Here’s what I got the other day:
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Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP Cruwear Manix

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby attila » Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:45 pm

attila wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:10 am
SteveMidwest wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:19 pm
attila wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm
I noticed the FRN vs FRCP discrepancy as well. I was going to call, asking about that, but I didn’t get around to it this week.

It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.

I plan to post a picture comparing them to old and new burnt orange G10, as well as the FRN and FRCP, if possible tomorrow.

I look forward to those pictures, attila.
I took a picture of 4 of 6 burnt orange examples. I have new Golden FRN, new FRCP, new smooth G10, and used peel-ply G10. I forgot to include the original HAP40 Seki FRN and new peel-ply G10. That’s why I didn’t post the photo yet, but I’ll post what I have. I’ll just update this post/thread once I get a full team photo.

Here’s what I got the other day:
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Here you go:
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Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP Cruwear Manix

Waiting for: SPY27, K490, Swick 5, and something purple
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby bdblue » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:26 pm

Tucson Tom wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:29 pm
When I was brand new to Spyderco, I handled an FRN Manix in a sporting goods store
We've had discussions or arguments about this before, IIRC the outcome was that the lightweight Manix 2 was always FRCP and not FRN. I think the point of this thread was that the box for the latest model is labeled "FRN" when typically they have been making those from FRCP. (And don't ask me to tell what the difference is between these 2 materials.)

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby SteveMidwest » Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:17 pm

attila wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:45 pm
attila wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:10 am
SteveMidwest wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:19 pm
attila wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm
I noticed the FRN vs FRCP discrepancy as well. I was going to call, asking about that, but I didn’t get around to it this week.

It’s worthy of note, though, that the Native FRN and the Manix FRCP are still slightly different shades of burnt orange.

I plan to post a picture comparing them to old and new burnt orange G10, as well as the FRN and FRCP, if possible tomorrow.

I look forward to those pictures, attila.
I took a picture of 4 of 6 burnt orange examples. I have new Golden FRN, new FRCP, new smooth G10, and used peel-ply G10. I forgot to include the original HAP40 Seki FRN and new peel-ply G10. That’s why I didn’t post the photo yet, but I’ll post what I have. I’ll just update this post/thread once I get a full team photo.

Here’s what I got the other day:
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Here you go:
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Thank you much, attila! :)
You have inspired me to do the same here. Though I only have the two Manix knives, and the Shaman.

Of course different Cameras, lighting, and settings. Will show variations in color, but you've done a great job here. Putting them all together.

If I had to pick, and only thinking about the color alone. That darker (FRN) handle looks the best, to me.
I don't know what knife that is? but it sure has to be a small one. The clip ends nearly at the Spydie hole! :D

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby SteveMidwest » Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:50 pm

As of this afternoon. Sunday, September 6th, 2020.
Between myself, and a couple of friends of mine. We have 4 different Date Codes so far, on this knife.

:spyder: Dates codes so far:
LS
FT
GT
HT

Not a bad thing. Just an observation, and an interesting one at that! :D

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby Wartstein » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:38 pm

Will this knife ever find its way over to European dealers? :confused:
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby bchan » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:34 am

As a matter of fact is it possible to distinguish between FRN and FRCP based on appearance alone? Thanks.

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby SteveMidwest » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:07 pm

bchan wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:34 am
As a matter of fact is it possible to distinguish between FRN and FRCP based on appearance alone? Thanks.

No, not that I know of bchan. If I recall correctly. One of the reasons that FRCP was chosen for the Manix. Was it's ability to be made translucent. Like the Spyderco Manix 2 Knife Translucent Dusk Blue - C101PBL2 :spyder:

I suppose if a person was a real good plastics freak. A difference might be detected, if heated or burned (destructive testing), by the smell of the smoke, or the way it acts when melting.

I'm pretty sure there was another reason why it was chosen, but I can't think of it at the moment. I'll edit this post, if and when that info comes back to me. :)
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby Pancake » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:41 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:38 pm
Will this knife ever find its way over to European dealers? :confused:
I hope that you will be able to pick one :spyder:
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby Tucson Tom » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:42 am

FRN or FRCP? I'll just believe whatever is printed on the box. Should be here today.

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby steelcity16 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 am

SteveMidwest wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:07 pm
bchan wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:34 am
As a matter of fact is it possible to distinguish between FRN and FRCP based on appearance alone? Thanks.

No, not that I know of bchan. If I recall correctly. One of the reasons that FRCP was chosen for the Manix. Was it's ability to be made translucent. Like the Spyderco Manix 2 Knife Translucent Dusk Blue - C101PBL2 :spyder:

I suppose if a person was a real good plastics freak. A different might be detected, if heated or burned (destructive testing), by the smell of the smoke, or the way it acts when melting.

I'm pretty sure there was another reason why it was chosen, but I can't think of it at the moment. I'll edit this post, if and when that info comes back to me. :)

I thought I recall Sal or someone saying a long time ago that it had added rigidity over FRN that was needed for the linerless construction of the Manix LW.
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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby TomAiello » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:50 am

Is the Native LW FRN? Anyone know off hand?

The Manix and Native (the Rex 45 LW sprints) definitely have a different feel in my hand.

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Re: Manix2 LW Rex45

Postby attila » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:10 am

Native LW is FRN
Manix LW is FRCP
Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP Cruwear Manix

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