I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Trinity300 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:54 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Trinity300 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:10 pm
The pitting on my chef knife says otherwise.
Can you supply some pics?
To clarify it is a MAC Pro, not a SpydieChef, if that’s what you were thinking.
That’s what I was thinking.

So, in a rant against LC200N, you’re complaining about pitting in a knife in another steel, even though no one here has seen pitting in their LC200N blades, SpydieChef or otherwise?

Doesn’t really advance the conversation.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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I have to agree it's pretty odd to bring that up. But that's my gut response to a lot of Trinity's posts. I know that I've been like that too, though. Being excited about things makes you want to participate in every conversation.

For what it's worth, though, I do agree that corrosion resistance matters in the kitchen. My kitchen knives get used by children and guests, and you should see the (cheap) O-1 Opinel and the (not as cheap) 26c3 custom at this point. We've even been able to put some staining on a Southfork (s90v).
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:46 am
Trinity300 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:54 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Trinity300 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:10 pm
The pitting on my chef knife says otherwise.
Can you supply some pics?
To clarify it is a MAC Pro, not a SpydieChef, if that’s what you were thinking.
That’s what I was thinking.

So, in a rant against LC200N, you’re complaining about pitting in a knife in another steel, even though no one here has seen pitting in their LC200N blades, SpydieChef or otherwise?

Doesn’t really advance the conversation.
To be fair, I think he was responding to the (rather questionable, IMO) claim that corrosion resistance is unimportant in a kitchen knife. His experience with the pitted knife indicated otherwise.

Not anything specific about LC200N.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:46 am
Trinity300 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:54 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Trinity300 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:10 pm
The pitting on my chef knife says otherwise.
Can you supply some pics?
To clarify it is a MAC Pro, not a SpydieChef, if that’s what you were thinking.
That’s what I was thinking.

So, in a rant against LC200N, you’re complaining about pitting in a knife in another steel, even though no one here has seen pitting in their LC200N blades, SpydieChef or otherwise?

Doesn’t really advance the conversation.
You are missing the point. The Meat man is correct. I disagree with the rant against LC200N. If my chef knife was made of LC200N, I doubt there would be any pitting due to not cleaning it until after dinner. I value corrosion resistance in the kitchen.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Trinity300 wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:04 am
You are missing the point.
My point is that your point obscured this thread, which began as a rant having nothing to do with LC200N’s corrosion-resistance, a property of little concern to the OP, even if it is to you.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Surfingringo wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:13 am
Man, as much as i want one, I think I need a new fillet knife more. The 7.5” you made me of my fillet design (in Vanax) is still going strong but getting a little thick behind the edge from sooo much use and sharpening. I’m working on a 5.5” model too that might be what I’ll try to get you to do next.
Which ever you want to do is fine with me. Since Vanax is so expensive and it was such a freakin' ordeal to get that last shipment landed, I immediately profiled a second Vanax Waterway and a Vanax Rigid Fillet for you in addition to the Waterway I was making you at that time. I just figured you'd want them one day and wasn't confident that I'd be able to get the Vanax when I needed it in the future. As well, I have a CPM20CV rigid fillet profiled just in case too. I use my CPM20CV Lance Clinton designed Rigid Fillet in my kitchen every day....'cause I don't have a fancy Vanax version :p .
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A Smaller version of the Rigid Fillet would be cool as well. I really like the idea of it being new of course. From a maker point of view...fewer square inches to hand rub is better :D .

Whatever you decide, just let me know and we'll discuss details. At the moment I'm nearing the end of an extremely time intensive full Ti guard and pommel construction mini bowie style build for Marius (Elena86), but I expect to be done within the next 2 weeks.

For what it's worth, I completely agree with those that would like to see a fully serrated LC200N Waterway!

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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:27 am

My point is that your point obscured this thread,
he replied to "Corrosion resistance is the last thing that matters in the kitchen". Trinity essentially replied with "it does matter." I personally don't think it obscured anything to challenge such a bold statement.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Xplorer wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:45 am
Surfingringo wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:13 am
Man, as much as i want one, I think I need a new fillet knife more. The 7.5” you made me of my fillet design (in Vanax) is still going strong but getting a little thick behind the edge from sooo much use and sharpening. I’m working on a 5.5” model too that might be what I’ll try to get you to do next.
Which ever you want to do is fine with me. Since Vanax is so expensive and it was such a freakin' ordeal to get that last shipment landed, I immediately profiled a second Vanax Waterway and a Vanax Rigid Fillet for you in addition to the Waterway I was making you at that time. I just figured you'd want them one day and wasn't confident that I'd be able to get the Vanax when I needed it in the future. As well, I have a CPM20CV rigid fillet profiled just in case too. I use my CPM20CV Lance Clinton designed Rigid Fillet in my kitchen every day....'cause I don't have a fancy Vanax version :p .
Image

A Smaller version of the Rigid Fillet would be cool as well. I really like the idea of it being new of course. From a maker point of view...fewer square inches to hand rub is better :D .

Whatever you decide, just let me know and we'll discuss details. At the moment I'm nearing the end of an extremely time intensive full Ti guard and pommel construction mini bowie style build for Marius (Elena86), but I expect to be done within the next 2 weeks.

For what it's worth, I completely agree with those that would like to see a fully serrated LC200N Waterway!

CK
Everytime you post something like this, it make me hate you a little more.

Seriously! I'd beat you in the head with someone else's leg, to get that Vanax filet.

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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:25 pm

Everytime you post something like this, it make me hate you a little more.

Seriously! I'd beat you in the head with someone else's leg, to get that Vanax filet.

</3

(/s)
:D :D Thank you...I think? Lemme know next time you go to a knife show...so I'm ready to duck! ;) :p
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It definitely makes the rest of us pretty jealous. :)
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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I think LC200N is fine. It's as corrosion resistant as H1 but holds a way better edge when plain ground. It is also very easy to keep sharp at home.

There is stuff out there I don't like/need but I just don't buy it/or talk at length why I don't like it. I'm pretty sure for anything I don't like there will be just as many people as me that do like it.
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Danke wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:36 pm
There is stuff out there I don't like/need but I just don't buy it/or talk at length why I don't like it. I'm pretty sure for anything I don't like there will be just as many people as me that do like it.
That’s how I see it, too. It’s not as if Spyderco is going to start making every knife out of LC200N. There are plenty of alternate choices. If someone doesn’t like it, they can simply not buy knives in that steel.

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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Xplorer wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:31 pm
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:25 pm

Everytime you post something like this, it make me hate you a little more.

Seriously! I'd beat you in the head with someone else's leg, to get that Vanax filet.

</3

(/s)
:D :D Thank you...I think? Lemme know next time you go to a knife show...so I'm ready to duck! ;) :p
Hah!

I'll be at BladeShow. Mark your calendar. ;)
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I for one would absolutely love to see a sprint or exclusive run of Shamans and/or PM2 Wharnies in LC200N! They would be fantastic work knives for those of us on the water.
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I think LC200N is a great steel. Corrosion resistance also matters quite a bit in a commercial setting.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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My only experience with LC200N is an Atlantic Salt I bought for a sailor friend. I've sharpened it for him twice. Nothing about this steel has convinced me that I want an LC200N blade, but he likes it because it's such an upgrade to his H1. (And of course that it was free.)
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Hey emanuel, first of all I’m happy to hear you’re enjoying your Waterway!

Regarding lc200n, I’m kind of with Larrin. I think it’s a well balanced steel. I also agree with some others that the cries for “lc200n everything” are a bit much. If you need high corrosion resistance then LC200N is really a special steel. If you don’t then its still a very capable and well balanced steel but not really “special”. That said, even if i didn’t need the corrosion resistance, I would still like lc200n a lot. I tend to favor fine grained, tough steels that have good sharpening response. I’ll usually take that over higher wear resistance steels like s90v weather I need the corrosion resistance or not.
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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i think the call to lc200n everything is because we all like multiple designs and out love to have more corrosion resistant versions of them. i thought the plan from spyderco was to offer many of their models in lc200n just like they offer them in s110v, or maxamet, or k390, etc.
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I love when I realize that I just replied to a necro thread. I love it even more when I realize it is a necro thread that I had already responded to when it was alive. :cheap-sunglasses
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Re: I do not like LC200N *rant*

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Hi TybeeJeffro,

Welcome to our forum.

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