Native 5 (Salt) Sheepsfoot?

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Native 5 (Salt) Sheepsfoot?

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From the "ugarguy's been thinking file" :eek:

Who would be interested in a Native 5 LW / Native 5 Salt SE Sheepsfoot? This could either be a folding Enuff or a Rescue 79mm / Saver Salt shrunk to 75mm. It could replace the 79mm / 3.093 inch blade of the Saver Salt and Rescue 79mm with the Native 5's 75mm / 2.95 inch blade.

This would do a couple of things. First, for places with blade length restrictions, it would provide a sub-three-inch blade rescue knife for that still offers a full four finger grip for people like me with thick fingers who find the Delica based knives too small to use comfortably. Second, the Native 5 LW / N5 Salt handle mold is already paid for. My understanding is that making new handle molds is the expensive part of making a new design or updating an existing design. If this were to replace the Saver Salt and / or Rescue 79mm, it would save the cost of new molds to move those knives to the newer style four position, three hole clip screw designs.

Does this appeal to anyone else?
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I’d buy the salt in a heartbeat, because I usually don’t do FRN unless it is in the salt line. If they gave it the 4mm hollow ground blade of the Enuff it would only make it sweeter.
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Re: Native 5 (Salt) Sheepsfoot?

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Sheepsfoot. Wharncliffe. Tanto.
Why not all the blade shape options?

I dont have anything against the idea but... Im not sure if it makes enough of a difference for me to stop using my atlantic salt.

Im waiting on the lil native lightweights to come out before I ask for this but what I want is a lil native backlock wharncliffe. I just recently got a cold steel tuff lite and really like it for a cheap knife. I think a lil native lightweight backlock wharncliffe would be an excellent better steel/better ergo version of that knife.
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Yes!!!
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Sheepsfoot, or a Lambsfoot. | [ link 2 ]
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VooDooChild wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:53 am
Sheepsfoot. Wharncliffe. Tanto.
Why not all the blade shape options?

I dont have anything against the idea but... Im not sure if it makes enough of a difference for me to stop using my atlantic salt.

Im waiting on the lil native lightweights to come out before I ask for this but what I want is a lil native backlock wharncliffe. I just recently got a cold steel tuff lite and really like it for a cheap knife. I think a lil native lightweight backlock wharncliffe would be an excellent better steel/better ergo version of that knife.
I've had a Tuff Lite for a while now, and I really like it. The similarity in construction to the Native 5 LW is part of what inspired this thread. Why not all the blade shape options? Because the Sheepsfoot blade fills a specific niche that Spyderco is already known for - rescue blades. As I wrote in my OP, switching over to the N5 LW platform as the upgrade to the Rescue 79mm and Saver Salt saves money on handle molds and slightly reduces blade length to meet a common a legal restriction.
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the tuff lite is an excellent little utility knife. i carry one with a se df2 salt every day at work. i would definitely carry my native salt if we didn’t have a 2.5” blade restriction. i’m hoping to get a lil native, but holding out a bit to see if the lil native salt ever comes into fruition.
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I would buy most knives in a sheepsfoot version. It's probably my favorite blade shape, at least once I mod the point a bit.


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I mostly just like that sheepsfoots tend to have a fairly straight edge sometimes with just enough belly to be a bit more versatile than a true wharncliffe but I need more point than they offer so I grind the spine down a bit. This is my ideal EDC blade shape because it can slash with similar force as a wharncliffe (Yojimbo 2 style) but can also make contact with a cutting board if needed and I try to get the blade ground down to a sharp enough point that it'll penetrate when needed but is still tougher than the average straight spine blade point. It also gives me the freedom to sharpen the blade tip by grinding down the spine, since I can't seem to keep myself from either rounding them off on the Sharpmaker or chipping them in use.

Bonus fact, all that is why the Sliverax is such a useful knife. The blade is pretty much everything I want in a blade shape.
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Re: Native 5 (Salt) Sheepsfoot?

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Oo oo wish thread!

I think id rather have Delica Wharncliffe salt in green Zome FRN
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5-by-5 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:59 am
Oo oo wish thread!

I think id rather have Delica Wharncliffe salt in green Zome FRN
No, this isn't a wish for whatever you want thread. I laid out a specific niche that this proposed knife would fill. There's already a Delica wharncliffe Salt. You can make it Zome green yourself with some RIT dye. The Delica is too small for my fat fingers. I'm sick of the Delica cult here telling me to just get a Delica instead of a Native.
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I wouldn't tell you not to get a native. I love the native. I was just thinking from my own standpoint I only have a wharncliffe Delica. I'd love to have an lc200 native in green zome

As for wish thread, it devolved by the third post. As most threads do. My point was satirical
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