Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
I think I want a Shaman but am a bit confused about which version I should get? I don't really care about the color of the scales - the steel is more important to me. I would actually prefer this in FRN over G10. I also want non-serrated and non-black coating. Any recommendations are appreaciated!
Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Not a Shaman-expert or even -owner (though I will be eventually...), but isn't the question rather which version you CAN actually get (anymore)?
That being said: I could handle the S30V "base" model and it would be more than just fine for me (plus: Actually available..)
And it has that great looking stone wash / tumbled blade finish...
That being said: I could handle the S30V "base" model and it would be more than just fine for me (plus: Actually available..)
And it has that great looking stone wash / tumbled blade finish...
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
What quality are you looking for in the steel?
Pure wear resistance plus stainless? CPM S90V.
Edge strength and stability with good wear resistance? CPM REX 45.
A decent balance of wear resistance, stain resistance, and strength, with excellent sharpenability? CPM Cru-wear.
The above, but more stainless and a bit less quick on the stones? CPM S30V.
A bit more wear resistance and strength than Cruwear, less corrosion resistance while still being a good sharpening steel? CPM M4.
Pure wear resistance plus stainless? CPM S90V.
Edge strength and stability with good wear resistance? CPM REX 45.
A decent balance of wear resistance, stain resistance, and strength, with excellent sharpenability? CPM Cru-wear.
The above, but more stainless and a bit less quick on the stones? CPM S30V.
A bit more wear resistance and strength than Cruwear, less corrosion resistance while still being a good sharpening steel? CPM M4.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Let me help you out. The answer to both parts is, yes you do want a shaman, and which one is any one you can get ahold of.
The base model wouldnt be difficult to get. If I were you since there seems to be more sprints and exclusives in the shamans future then I would try to get one of those. If you really like it you could get the base model as a backup/beater.
The base model wouldnt be difficult to get. If I were you since there seems to be more sprints and exclusives in the shamans future then I would try to get one of those. If you really like it you could get the base model as a backup/beater.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
sounds like you really want a manix 2 lw. it’ll save you a bunch of money too.
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C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
It is probably my favourite knife to really use/edc anymore, I have 4, soon to be 5, and I seem to enjoy each one more than the last... there are a ton of after market options available as far as scales, deep carry clips, etc.... I think it really comes down to what steel do you want? The good news is there are quite a few options, do you have any experience with or preferences with the steels they come in? s30v, s90v, rex45, m4, 4v, cruwear?
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Problem is you're getting pineapple jimping and quirky CBBL lock with the Manix..
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Get an S30V if you need one now, or wait for the BBS M390/K390 or DLT M390 exclusives which I’m sure will come.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
You have no idea how quick I'd jump on that BBS blue!
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
I don't consider either of those a problem. What do mean by pineapple jimping on the Manix 2 LW? I also don't know why you consider the CBBL quirky. It's one of my favorite locks.Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:54 amProblem is you're getting pineapple jimping and quirky CBBL lock with the Manix..
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
VooDooChild wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:48 amLet me help you out. The answer to both parts is, yes you do want a shaman, and which one is any one you can get ahold of.
The base model wouldnt be difficult to get. If I were you since there seems to be more sprints and exclusives in the shamans future then I would try to get one of those. If you really like it you could get the base model as a backup/beater.
Nailed it. You really can't go wrong with the standard S30V but you can pretty much take your pick of the sprints and get a great steel regardless of which one you get.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
I realise it's taste and preference, but i think the Manix has excessive jimping, and i think the CBBL is like an old Glock trigger, hard and gritty :)Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:19 pmI don't consider either of those a problem. What do mean by pineapple jimping on the Manix 2 LW? I also don't know why you consider the CBBL quirky. It's one of my favorite locks.Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:54 amProblem is you're getting pineapple jimping and quirky CBBL lock with the Manix..
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
At this time, you're going to have to pay an arm and a leg for any model that isn't the standard S30V.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Thats the other part of this conversation. There is no way you could pick up a non-standard shaman at any where close to what it sold for, or what is a reasonable price. Which is why I said try and wait for a sprint or exclusive. With that said... I have the standard s30v version and it is really good. One of the few folding pocket knives I would beat on relentlessly without a care.TkoK83Spy wrote: At this time, you're going to have to pay an arm and a leg for any model that isn't the standard S30V.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
The rex45 sprint should be out in the next couple months (maybe sooner), and it's a safe bet that we'll see a lot more dealer/distributor exclusives this year. If you want something other than s30v/black scales, you won't have to hold out for long.
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the standard shaman isn't a reasonable price either. the manix 2 in the same materials is $80 cheaper and even cheaper still in a lightweight model. if you’re bent on the compression lock and g10, the paramilitary 2 in the same materials is still $50 cheaper. “but that’s because they have thinner blade stock,” you say? okay, then try the yojimbo 2 in the same materials and thickness, which is also $50 cheaper. if you really want a shaman, spend the extra money, but i personally don’t think it’s worth it. i’d much rather spend less on a yojimbo or manix and think they’re both better knives than the shaman anyway.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
I highly recommend the Knife Joker, Forest Green G-10, DLC CPM CRUWEAR exclusive.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
Not to be contrary, but a new base model Shaman can be had on the reg for 130-150 on the secondary market (see deals 2 thread) -- I don't really have a problem with what the regular price is for it, but at those prices, I have a hard time saying it's an apples-apples sort of affair in any respect. I *LOVE* the Manix2 platform, it's my #3 most collected Spydie, but if tough use is called for, I would go to a Shaman (I have 6) before a Manix2 any day of the week, even if it was the same steel called for -- cru-wear, m4, s90v... but hey, just my 2c, and this is just my observation with my use cases, everybody's got different uses/needs/approaches, etc, etc. I feel incredibly fortunate that I have the ability to make those choices on a daily basis, edc rotation and all... :)ladybug93 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:28 pmthe standard shaman isn't a reasonable price either. the manix 2 in the same materials is $80 cheaper and even cheaper still in a lightweight model. if you’re bent on the compression lock and g10, the paramilitary 2 in the same materials is still $50 cheaper. “but that’s because they have thinner blade stock,” you say? okay, then try the yojimbo 2 in the same materials and thickness, which is also $50 cheaper. if you really want a shaman, spend the extra money, but i personally don’t think it’s worth it. i’d much rather spend less on a yojimbo or manix and think they’re both better knives than the shaman anyway.
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Re: Spyderco Shaman - Which one?
You, sir, are terrible.
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