The Pac Salt needs a Military handle

[pantagana23]

I hope it comes in BD1 if it's a Byrd, and in SPY27 if Spyderco. For starters :D

[sal]

Hi Ugaarguy,

It is a Spyderco. It was originally designed to serve a few functions. It's sized for the: climber / rock jumper/ outdoor folding knife. Not too big, not too small. I used a Warncliffe blade shape so that the tip has as much force in cutting rope as the heel of the blade. Cutting rope quickly can be an issue where rope is used, especially strong rope like in climbing. This is a concept that Mike Janich has popularized in the past 10 years or so. While Mike's approach is for Martial Blade Craft, the concept also works on Sheepsfoot styles like Rescue knives which keep the rope from "rolling" off of a curved blade.

The liner is highly skeletonized to keep weight down which is important in any type of climbing but I wanted to include a liner for rigidity if used hard.

I used a lock-back to maximize self close. In climbing and a very quick descent could conceivable cause an inertia opening and I didn't want to take that chance and I think that, at this time., lock-backs offer the most secure self cloe.

I went straight to FRN as making a G-10 run in Seki gets very expensive and the high cost hurts sales which hinders my research on a new design concept.

The design brings the handle right to the cutting edge which is important on quick emergency cutting of rope. Kicks, sharpening choils and finger choils can snag on a rope and time is lost if it is an emergency cut. This is an experiment with this design as it is difficult to do with a lock-back.

Hope that answers your questions.

sal

[Evil D]

Hi Ugaarguy,

It is a Spyderco. It was originally designed to serve a few functions. It's sized for the: climber / rock jumper/ outdoor folding knife. Not too big, not too small. I used a Warncliffe blade shape so that the tip has as much force in cutting rope as the heel of the blade. Cutting rope quickly can be an issue where rope is used, especially strong rope like in climbing. This is a concept that Mike Janich has popularized in the past 10 years or so. While Mike's approach is for Martial Blade Craft, the concept also works on Sheepsfoot styles like Rescue knives which keep the rope from "rolling" off of a curved blade.

The liner is highly skeletonized to keep weight down which is important in any type of climbing but I wanted to include a liner for rigidity if used hard.

I used a lock-back to maximize self close. In climbing and a very quick descent could conceivable cause an inertia opening and I didn't want to take that chance and I think that, at this time., lock-backs offer the most secure self cloe.

I went straight to FRN as making a G-10 run in Seki gets very expensive and the high cost hurts sales which hinders my research on a new design concept.

The design brings the handle right to the cutting edge which is important on quick emergency cutting of rope. Kicks, sharpening choils and finger choils can snag on a rope and time is lost if it is an emergency cut. This is an experiment with this design as it is difficult to do with a lock-back.

Hope that answers your questions.

sal

My heart is honestly racing after reading that, it sounds like you pulled the idea straight out of my imagination. I have VERY high hopes for this knife.

Salt versions? FFG?

[ugaarguy]

I've started a Rock Jumper thread here - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85940 - so we don't clutter up this thread and a few others where's it's been mentioned as a side note.

[Jazz]

Cool, Sal. How long is the blade? Salt? Grind?

[Doc Dan]

On the Endela, I softened the "Points" to accommodate those that were complaining. On the Stretch 2, I just used a swell with no points. the Endura 4 still outsells both combined, though it's still early in the cycle.

The Straight spine stretch had the swell (no points ) and the finger choil and it sold out quickly, but it was made as a sprint which, in my opinion, affected the experiment. The "Rock Jumper" uses the "swell" instead of the "points" and should be out soon. I'm also working of a 4.0" blade Stretch 2 with a straight spine.

sal

Could the slower Endela sales relative to the Endura be for another reason than the new handle shape?

I hope the Straight Spine Stretch will return in OD green or other earth tones. My motorcycle accident slowed down my knife buying last year so I really want to see a return.

[crazywednesday]

The PAC Salt and Endura need the same handle shape as the Military. There would be no more complaints about the points and it would be stable under hard use.

What do y’all think?

I love this idea, but Im out if its a liner lock. Back lock would be my preference.

[kennethsime]

I hope the Straight Spine Stretch will return in OD green or other earth tones. My motorcycle accident slowed down my knife buying last year so I really want to see a return.

While I too would love to see more colors for the Straight Spine Stretch, I'd like to point out that the Ivory scales do really well with RIT dye.

[Doc Dan]

The PAC Salt and Endura need the same handle shape as the Military. There would be no more complaints about the points and it would be stable under hard use.

What do y’all think?

I love this idea, but Im out if its a liner lock. Back lock would be my preference.

ONLY a backlock.

[Doc Dan]

I hope the Straight Spine Stretch will return in OD green or other earth tones. My motorcycle accident slowed down my knife buying last year so I really want to see a return.

While I too would love to see more colors for the Straight Spine Stretch, I'd like to point out that the Ivory scales do really well with RIT dye.

Yes, I’m sure. But I don’t have the time.

[kennethsime]

I hope the Straight Spine Stretch will return in OD green or other earth tones. My motorcycle accident slowed down my knife buying last year so I really want to see a return.

While I too would love to see more colors for the Straight Spine Stretch, I'd like to point out that the Ivory scales do really well with RIT dye.

Yes, I’m sure. But I don’t have the time.

I've heard you don't need to disassemble it to achieve good results, which would cut your time down to about 15 minutes. But I'm also all-for more OD green and other earth tones coming straight from the factory.