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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:26 am

Ordered mine from a small, but I am rather sure reputable dealer on ebay ("kershawspydercoknives") for the same price bhq, kc and so on charge
They have ONE (!) left!

In my case, since it is an US dealer, of course it will be more like 130 USD (cause of shipping and tariffs) and it´ll be a month till I actually have the knife in hands... :o
Looking forward to it, and it should arrive around christmas, will be a nice present to myself ;)
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Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:42 am

First vid about that model I could find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLYnPihtDng (short comparison to the "regular" Stretch 2 at 1:30, to the PM2 at 2:15, to those two plus Endura at about 7:45)

Though I actually do prefer the original blade shape( and the Stretch 1 anyway), this thing just looks cool and immidiately makes me want to grab and use it.. (well, that´s why I ordered one from the US... :o )
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Sumdumguy » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:44 am

Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:04 pm
cycleguy wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:02 pm
Still available minus 1

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:58 am

One (very minor) disappointment for me personally:
I would have hoped, the straight spine version would have featured the longer blade of the G10 /ZDP "regular" Stretch (3.57"), but in fact it has the same bladelength as the FRN Stretch 2s (3.43").

Not a dealbreaker at all though, and I understand that it probably makes sense to stay well below 3.5 " due to silly restrictions in certain areas.
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby crow2071 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:15 pm

:D New Graham Knives has it in stock. Just ordered one.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby DTPrime » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:33 pm

crow2071 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:15 pm
:D New Graham Knives has it in stock. Just ordered one.
Didn’t last long :(

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:37 pm

Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby toocool006 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:10 pm

Love the ivory frn, but curious what the appeal is of the straight spine? Does the extra height let them get a grind that's thinner bte? Or is it just the pointier tip?
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby crow2071 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:39 pm

It's practically a frn pm2.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby AwayFromMySpydieHole » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:39 pm

Man I would absolutely love if they made this a different color, and it had ZDP189 or k390.....and was regular production.


I’d literally buy 5 of them.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Jazz » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:40 pm

toocool006 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Love the ivory frn, but curious what the appeal is of the straight spine?

Either you like it or you don’t.
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:20 pm

crow2071 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:39 pm
It's practically a frn pm2.
A backlock-FRN-thinner bladestock- being lighter -offering more grip area- wider choil- PM 2...:)

Plus: It has a different "edge line" (PM 2: Continous curve / Stretch: Long straight section).

Just for me personally it's the "better PM2" ;)
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:46 am

toocool006 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Love the ivory frn, but curious what the appeal is of the straight spine? Does the extra height let them get a grind that's thinner bte? Or is it just the pointier tip?
I think the pointier but in return a bit more fragile tip is about the only thing that will make a real difference in use.

I personally prefer the original blade shape (but still ordered s straight spine Stretch), the inward curve of the spine offers a great place to put your thumb on an "push back" against the Spine.

I think and hope the more conventional and for many probably more appealing look of the straight spine will make more people actually get a Stretch in hands.
As far as I know, this model never sold as well as it should imho, but seemingly most people who actually handle one love the ergos and probably keep or want a Stretch (just what I read and heard of course).
So I guess offering this new blade shape is more like a way of getting more people to actually try the very refined and comfortable Stretch handle and ergos. Very smart from Spyderco imho, since the handle and the molds for it already exist, and to put the usual blade, just with a straight spine in it, should not have been too difficult.

What I personally do NOT hope: That the straight spine version will NOT replace the original shaped version eventually.. (though froma solely selfish point of view I would not have to care: I have three of my favorite Stretch variant (the Stretch 1), should last me a life time... ;) )
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby The Deacon » Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:56 am

toocool006 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Love the ivory frn, but curious what the appeal is of the straight spine? Does the extra height let them get a grind that's thinner bte? Or is it just the pointier tip?

Can't speak for anyone else, but to me it's a combination of the pointer tip and the different look it gives the knife. There's also the hope that new look will convince more people to try the Stretch because, over the 15 years since its introduction, the single most common reason folks have given for not buying a Stretch has been the blade shape.
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:27 am

Jazz wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:40 pm
toocool006 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Love the ivory frn, but curious what the appeal is of the straight spine?

Either you like it or you don’t.
Until I use mine I will leave it undecided, like Warts I wish they would have made the blade longer like the originals.

The hump never bothered me a bit in the older models sure it is not the prettiest but I don’t need pretty to cut.

As for buying this model when I already have many Spydie that do cut there were several motivations.

#1 I wanted to support Sal’s love of this design, saying thanks with dollars counts more than just words with any business. From what I have read the stretch has not been the best seller and Sal has had to fight to keep it alive as a product and and a pet project. This sprint run is him giving to us stretch lovers and a practical business decision to test the waters for future production.

#2. I always felt the stretch design has never got the credit or traction with the buyers it should have and do not believe even with this straight back it has reached its final evolution.

3. I hope that this purchase will lead to more development of the Stretch and the return to longer blades in its next incarnation.

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:33 am

"kershawspydercoknives" on ebay has ONE in stock again (seems to be a reputable dealer).
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:48 am

Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:27 am
Jazz wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:40 pm
toocool006 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:10 pm
Love the ivory frn, but curious what the appeal is of the straight spine?

Either you like it or you don’t.
...

3. I hope that this purchase will lead to more development of the Stretch and the return to longer blades in its next incarnation.
THIS please!! The current Stretch blade is 3,48", but the handle would offer space for I guess a 3.8" blade... the 3.19 " of actual cutting edge the Stretch 1 (one) offered would be great to have again (current Stretch 2 (two): 3.01 ")

EDIT: On the other hand I am aware of silly restrictions in certain areas, and so I get the approach of staying under 3.5"...
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Pancake » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:52 am

Wartstein wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:48 am


THIS please!! The current Stretch blade is 3,48", but the handle would offer space for I guess a 3.8" blade... the 3.19 " of actual cutting edge the Stretch 1 (one) offered would be great to have again (current Stretch 2 (two): 3.01 ")

EDIT: On the other hand I am aware of silly restrictions in certain areas, and so I get the approach of staying under 3.5"...
3.8 inch blade?! Now we are talking :cool:
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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Wartstein » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:58 am

Pancake wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:52 am
Wartstein wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:48 am


THIS please!! The current Stretch blade is 3,48", but the handle would offer space for I guess a 3.8" blade... the 3.19 " of actual cutting edge the Stretch 1 (one) offered would be great to have again (current Stretch 2 (two): 3.01 ")

EDIT: On the other hand I am aware of silly restrictions in certain areas, and so I get the approach of staying under 3.5"...
3.8 inch blade?! Now we are talking :cool:
Perhaps a too optimistic guess... :o (don't have a Stretch 2 anymore to check, just several "1"s)
But I almost guarantee 3.7! ;)
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Straight Spine Stretch

Postby Pancake » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:56 pm

Even 3.7 is better then 3.5 or whatever is right now on Stretch. Remember, longer is always better :D
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