Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
With Spyderco virtually having the market more or less sowed up in the sector of Hawkbill blades ( mainly folders) I think it might just be time for them to try a new style of Hawkbill folder ( or even a fixed blade unit). It's a given that Hawkbill blades do their ultimate best work with serrated edges. The patented SpyderEdge seems to really shine with a Hawkbill blade. The Hawkbill blade can do jobs that are difficult with most other blade designs.
The pull cutting advantages of a Hawkbill blade are now well documented. I've been wondering for quite a while how a Hawkbill blade would do in other types of "grinds" for instance. I think a larger Hawkbill like a Spyderhawk for instance would probably perform really well in a full flat grind.
Not only to consider different grinds but maybe even look into different serration patterns as well.
I'm sure that all of you who are Hawkbill fans have your own ideas as to what you think would make a better Hawkbill blade. Maybe even try some of the supersteel blades. Personally I've been wanting a G-10 handled Hawkbill for some time now. OK what do you all think would make a Hawkbill blade better to use?
The pull cutting advantages of a Hawkbill blade are now well documented. I've been wondering for quite a while how a Hawkbill blade would do in other types of "grinds" for instance. I think a larger Hawkbill like a Spyderhawk for instance would probably perform really well in a full flat grind.
Not only to consider different grinds but maybe even look into different serration patterns as well.
I'm sure that all of you who are Hawkbill fans have your own ideas as to what you think would make a better Hawkbill blade. Maybe even try some of the supersteel blades. Personally I've been wanting a G-10 handled Hawkbill for some time now. OK what do you all think would make a Hawkbill blade better to use?
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
Full flat grind Spyderhawk Sprint in LC200n would be an instant buy for me. I don't go into the yard without my Spyderhawk, it loves being in the cut.
Edit: Bright handle color of course. I'd even take VG-10 as the blade steel...
Edit: Bright handle color of course. I'd even take VG-10 as the blade steel...
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oh dang, FFG LC200n spyderhawk would be amaaaaaaaaaazing.
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
This man knows of what he speaks!legOFwhat? wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:42 amFull flat grind Spyderhawk Sprint in LC200n would be an instant buy for me. I don't go into the yard without my Spyderhawk, it loves being in the cut.
Edit: Bright handle color of course. I'd even take VG-10 as the blade steel...
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
I tend to like smaller hawkbills and I have been pushing for a FFG hawkbill dragonfly, or Lil Native. Linerless LC200N Salt in a color besides yellow would be a big plus. But I also would like kne with a steel like K390, Rex45, 4V, Maxamet, M4, Cruwear, S90V, S110V, SuperBlue, ZDP-189, heck S30V.
A small curved blade is an incredibly practical and useful tool. I wouldn't be against a larger hawkbill though.
A small curved blade is an incredibly practical and useful tool. I wouldn't be against a larger hawkbill though.
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
It's just flat out time for a new generation of Hawkbills for Spyderco. This suggestion of a Spyderhawk in full flat grind in LC200N would most certainly be a big step in the right direction.curlyhairedboy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:51 amoh dang, FFG LC200n spyderhawk would be amaaaaaaaaaazing.
We've had the same style and same generation of Hawkbills for so long now. This would really appeal to someone who buys the C-36 Military or Para2 both in a supersteel blade. And many of us who have already had the standard Harpy and FRN handled Spyderhawk are all ready to move the Hawkbill blades up a few notches.
Or how about bringing the Merlin model out of retirement with a Titanium handle. Yeah you guys are confirming that we need a new generation of Hawkbills :cool:
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
Is it that time of year again JD? Hopefully this year it works.
We've heard the PM2 is being used as a platform for new blade shapes. That has me excited about the possibility of a Superhawk/Spyderhawk evolution, or regrinding a Wharncliffe PM2 if not.
Does anyone else remember the Superhawk?
I was disappointed at how shallow the tip and edge angle was and how big the handle was, and I don't think it even sold in SE. Add a serrated beer belly for push cuts, shrink it 20% and keep the street price under $180 and I'm in (even if the steel is just S30, XHP or VG10). Hopefully using the PM2 makes it possible to do that without breaking the bank, like the Spyderhawk.
A hawkbill PM3 (or better, with a reverse S) would hit the sweet spot for me, but I know many are using these hawks as rope cutters and garden tools where the extra length is valuable.
We've heard the PM2 is being used as a platform for new blade shapes. That has me excited about the possibility of a Superhawk/Spyderhawk evolution, or regrinding a Wharncliffe PM2 if not.
Does anyone else remember the Superhawk?
I was disappointed at how shallow the tip and edge angle was and how big the handle was, and I don't think it even sold in SE. Add a serrated beer belly for push cuts, shrink it 20% and keep the street price under $180 and I'm in (even if the steel is just S30, XHP or VG10). Hopefully using the PM2 makes it possible to do that without breaking the bank, like the Spyderhawk.
A hawkbill PM3 (or better, with a reverse S) would hit the sweet spot for me, but I know many are using these hawks as rope cutters and garden tools where the extra length is valuable.
Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
The Superhawk is possibly the widest folded knife I've ever seen.
I would be interested in hawkbill variants of existing models...a hawkbill Manix 2 would definitely get my attention.
JD I know it's not exactly a hawkbill but you should look into the Endura wharnie. I have good feelings about that blade. The negative angle should make it pull cut like a champ.
I would be interested in hawkbill variants of existing models...a hawkbill Manix 2 would definitely get my attention.
JD I know it's not exactly a hawkbill but you should look into the Endura wharnie. I have good feelings about that blade. The negative angle should make it pull cut like a champ.
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
Police 4 LW hawkbill or how about a native hawkbill? You can call it the tomahawk...
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I forgot about that part. It really did seem like they were designing the blade nominally to spec (Give us a compression lock knife with a pruning hook blade!) but with the restriction that it had to fit in the SuperLeaf handle.
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I am working on three Boomerangs at the moment. ( fixed blade )
Not folders, I know, but bendy edges just the same... :)
Not folders, I know, but bendy edges just the same... :)
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I suppose the sheath would be tricky for a fixed blade....but I'd take a fixed hawkbill in a second.Stuart Ackerman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:58 pmI am working on three Boomerangs at the moment. ( fixed blade )
Not folders, I know, but bendy edges just the same... :)
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That sounds good!Stuart Ackerman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:58 pmI am working on three Boomerangs at the moment. ( fixed blade )
Not folders, I know, but bendy edges just the same... :)
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YES! Make it 4 to 5 inches long, full tang like the Jumpmaster 2, and like everything else, I'll start saving my pennies for it. Make the blade strong enough for a thrust as well as a slash!legOFwhat? wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:28 pmI suppose the sheath would be tricky for a fixed blade....but I'd take a fixed hawkbill in a second.Stuart Ackerman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:58 pmI am working on three Boomerangs at the moment. ( fixed blade )
Not folders, I know, but bendy edges just the same... :)
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
One of these would be cool, just add a Spydie hole lol
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
Imagine a tatanka based salt series hawkbill with se. Could call it the raptorhawk.
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My sheathing system works for curved edges like an open blade Civilian in a SOB sheath.
I am using D2, because I have some, not because it is my first choice.
Anyway, I am expermenting, so in due course, I will show a pic or two.
I am using D2, because I have some, not because it is my first choice.
Anyway, I am expermenting, so in due course, I will show a pic or two.
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heck, i'd buy it on the name alone!SaltSerious wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:41 amImagine a tatanka based salt series hawkbill with se. Could call it the raptorhawk.
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Re: Now's The Time: For A New Style Of Hawkbill
If it's salt based it'd be more practical for it to be based off of the catcherman. Not to mention a lot easier to make since the mold is still around somewhere.SaltSerious wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:41 amImagine a tatanka based salt series hawkbill with se. Could call it the raptorhawk.