youmakemehole wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:05 pm
jpm2 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:09 pm
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The burden of producing a video I guess mostly only lies on Wartstein. And for the record, just because I do not go to a hammer grip in my sequence, doesnt mean I cannot do that and still make the comp lock look like its running circles around the backlock. I'll let whoever wants to make an extended backlock sequence decide what actions they want to chain together, and I'll match it. Otherwise all people will do is criticise the way that I decided to conduct my demonstration. So balls in your court BL bros.. you guys can decide what constitutes a fair demo. It just cannot be one single action, since that doesnt show what happens when you do the sam thing over and over again, as well as the time it actually takes to transition between every action. And lets make it at least say 5 cycles/repetitions.
First: I totally admit that I am partially to be blamed for the direction this thread has shifted, by choosing it´s click-bait title ("..backlock faster than comp.lock"). That was not a good idea in hindsight. Sure I wanted to draw attention to the thread (hence the title), but it was NOT my goal to start a competition, but to "help" some people to overcome their general reluctance when it comes to backlocks, so that the one or the or the other maybe would not miss out any longer on great (backlock-)knives.
That being said: Youmakemehole, I really have nothing against you, but I guess we have different approaches to this forum or this thread (and both are equally ok, just different): Just for clarifcation, and NOT to offend you(!), following some of your statements:
"If you can beat me" - "Its almost 6pm PST and the BL boys have been absolutely silent" - "balls in cour court BL bros": :
I have nothing against a competitive approach to things sometimes, but this is not the place for it, just for me (but it´s fine if it is for you)
If I and others state that I/we can close backlocks as fast as comp.locks (see my first post for the times I measured) I´d expect people to believe this in the first place. Really, as stated already, I don´t want to have to prove anything here, and I also don´t want to "beat" anyone in anything. I only firmly state things, when I know that they are true, otherwise I make clear that I am just assuming something or just don´t know if it´s true (and I did this many times on this forum already). If some people still doubt me, that´s fine, to be honest..
Now: As said, I have absolutely nothing against making and posting a video, if people who believe my statements anyway are additionally interested in actually watching that a backlock is easy and fast to operate (though Vivi showed this already quite comprehensive). But please understand, that this forum is not the place where I personally am willing to accept or prioritize "challenges". I often quickly post on this forum from my smartphone while having a short break, but I never even MADE a video with my smartphone ever, and taking the time to do so, to "learn" that streamable thing, to be at home at my laptop and having enough time, to upload and post a vid is a different story. I can do this when I have the time, but I am not eagerly putting other things aside to answer to some kind of "challenge" - again, no offense to you, rather the contrary: By taking the time to write this post (while where I live it´s a sunny morning outside, i have the day off and the mountains are calling
), I think I actually DO show you my respect. :)
I guess, if I do a vid I won´t post it here, but in a dedicated, new thread (something like: "The totally ridiculous but maybe still funny knife-skills-challenge thread"..
)
Two contentual points quickly and once more (just
words for now, no vid..
):
- As I and then Vivi said already: If you just want to fidget your blade, and relinquish any usefull (for cutting) grip in the process (like you do in many parts of your vids): You can do this equally well and fast with a backlock and a complock:
Backlock: Press the lockbar with your INDEX finger, and just swing the blade in the open/closed position
Comp.lock: Do exactly the same, the only difference being that your index finger is pressing the locktab on the SIDE of the knife, NOT on the top like on a backlock.
I admit, that doing this with a backlock probably requires more fingerstrength.
- On "consistency": I even am not sure what you mean: You actually think, someone used to a backlock would have troubles to open the knife (lets say in half a second) and afterwards close it (lets say in about one second or to go easy a bit more) five times in a row??? Honestly, its´s NO problem at all to do this fifty or hundred or more times in a row using several methods without EVER messing up. But again, if you use backlocks frequently yourself you probably know this anyway, and I got you wrong on the consistency-thing??
If ones finger muscles will fatigue faster on a backlock or a complock when trying to JUST open/close a knife as often and as fast as possible in a row, I can´t tell - if that´s what you happen to mean. But that would concern the MOST irrelevant skill of all the skills discussed in this thread already..