Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Enactive wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:03 am
And without liners but with stainless..
ABX2011 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:39 am
The Native Chief is pretty much a Police 4 without a hump. Slightly smaller and with a pointier blade. I'd like to see it with a swedge to make it more faithful to the Native line.

Base Police 4 will be stainless, VG-10.
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The P4 will be VG-10 as the other blades in the family. I'm also planning a K390 (midnight blue) and ZDP (BRG) versions in time.

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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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At 2.6 ounces I doubt it has liners.

I am personally super happy about a super lightweight 4 inch knife.

It looks a lot like the C54 Calypso which makes me happy. When do we get the first sprint? :-D
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Nate wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:34 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:18 am
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:57 am
CHIEF!!!

My only complaint is that there are no liners...
I think it has nested liners. One of Wouter’s pics gives me hope.

In any case, we have a heartbeat!

Curious about the rationale for complaint/disappointment if it is linerless?

Wouldn't liners would make the knife heavier and more expensive with no obvious functional benefit?
I prefer the heft and balance the liners provide, weight is a non issue for me. Also, strength is a functional benefit.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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The legendary Chief, at last. I’m s-o-o pleased.

Reminiscent of my graceful Calypso, but Golden-made, so perhaps not even a hint of lock-rock. And no thumb-ramp (some days you need one, some days you don’t, as Sal has said).

Because it has been so long in the making, and because we live in hyper-nativist times, I hope the Chief will premiere with a premium American steel other than S30V. Say, 3V or 4V (or 10V, or 15V).

But I’ll take it in S30V without a gripe.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:45 am
Nate wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:34 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:18 am
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:57 am
CHIEF!!!

My only complaint is that there are no liners...
I think it has nested liners. One of Wouter’s pics gives me hope.

In any case, we have a heartbeat!

Curious about the rationale for complaint/disappointment if it is linerless?

Wouldn't liners would make the knife heavier and more expensive with no obvious functional benefit?
I prefer the heft and balance the liners provide, weight is a non issue for me. Also, strength is a functional benefit.
I just prefer the stiffness that liners actually impart, but linerlessness does not offend me.

My numerous Salts (Caribbean excepted) are linerless, and I would have snapped up the Manix2 one, but I was spending my Spyderco budget on other models at the time.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Why the confusion? Mr Blonde said the chief was linerless in his post.
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Re: Spyderco 2019 Production Sample – Dragonfly 2 Wharncliffe

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rivy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:00 am
araneae wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:22 pm
Mr Blonde wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:46 pm
The wharncliffe Spyderco Delica was popular enough to bring out an Endura with a big ‘wharnie’ blade, and now we can look forward to a Dragonfly 2 with a wharncliffe blade. Personally, I prefer the ‘wharnie’ in a smaller blade. An original Kiwi has been my office folder for over 10 years now. I’ll definitely add this lil’ big wharncliffe to my everyday carry rotation!

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Overall Length: 14,1 cm / 5.56 inches
Blade Length: 5,7 cm / 2.25 inches
Blade Thickness: 2.5 mm / 0.09 inches
Weight: 24 grams / 0.84 ounces

I have no information on pricing or specific release dates.
Thank-you Sal!!!!!! This is something I have waited for for years! It really needs a swedge, but I can add that if I must. Can I have one yesterday please?
Yes! The wharnfly is a thing! So excited. I do agree though that it really needs a swedge! Gotta keep it in line with the dragonfly family and swedge it up. :D
One vote against the swedge here. It will be more comfortable to use your thumb on the spine without the swedge.
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The Chief looks awesome, it will give the Police 4 some competition.

And I would like a wharncliffe manbug as well :D
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Liquid Cobra wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:35 am
Why the confusion? Mr Blonde said the chief was linerless in his post.
One of Wouter’s pics (third up from the bottom) appears to show metal where liners might be nested.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:57 am
Liquid Cobra wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:35 am
Why the confusion? Mr Blonde said the chief was linerless in his post.
One of Wouter’s pics (third up from the bottom) appears to show metal where liners might be nested.
i thought so, too, initially, but after zooming in it looks like that is light coming through from the back on either side of the lockbar, not metal reflecting.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Hmm... Well, I have a feeling that the Chief will likely cancel out my interest in Police 4 LW. Golden made, sleek and light, arguably a better lock (from my experience with Japanese vs US back locks), and I already have a Police 4 in G10.

****, that Chief is a great looking knife.

What else can possibly throw a monkey wrench into the mix?
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Native Chief, WOW. Last backlock I purchased was maybe in 2013, the Caly 3.5. Moved on to framelock flippers and compression locks ever since. The Native Chief is about to bring me back around again. The platform is so ripe for some interesting sprints too!
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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sal wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:14 pm
Jazz wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:54 pm
Pretty sure the Emphasis and Efficients are Sal’s designs. They look absolutely gorgeous.

I love all the in house designs best. Proves who my favourite designers are.

I wonder if a wharnie Manbug will ever happen.

Thanks, Wouter. You are a pro, and a swell guy.
Hi Jazz,

Thanx much for the kind words, but the "Efficient" family is a collaboration between Ed Schempp and Eric.

A Manbug "Warnie" depends on you guys.

And yes, Wouter is exceptional.

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A Manbug wharnie would be amazing!! I love that little knife!
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Yeah man! Me too! Big, light and beautiful with a Golden back lock!
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:39 am
I am personally super happy about a super lightweight 4 inch knife.

It looks a lot like the C54 Calypso which makes me happy. When do we get the first sprint? :-D
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:20 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:18 am
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:57 am
CHIEF!!!

My only complaint is that there are no liners...
I think it has nested liners. One of Wouter’s pics gives me hope.

In any case, we have a heartbeat!
I thought so too, but I think it's just light through the crack. You can see his finger.
I thought it didn't have any liners at all.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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No liners on the Chief makes it more interesting to me and further differentiates it from the P4. Also made in Golden is a plus as others have stated; their lockbacks often have zero blade play.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Mr Blonde wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:24 pm
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:20 am
wrdwrght wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:18 am
Sumdumguy wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:57 am
CHIEF!!!

My only complaint is that there are no liners...
I think it has nested liners. One of Wouter’s pics gives me hope.

In any case, we have a heartbeat!
I thought so too, but I think it's just light through the crack. You can see his finger.
I thought it didn't have any liners at all.
I’ll certainly defer to your knowledge. The leaking light must have faked me out.

Since I have your attention, thanks again, Wouter, for all you do.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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Native chief looks gorgeous, unfortunately I have no need for a 4” bladed knife. 3.25-3.6 ish would’ve been right in my edc wheelhouse.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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ABX2011 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:30 pm
Also made in Golden is a plus as others have stated; their lockbacks often have zero blade play.

That's my only gripe with the Spyderco back/mid lock. Police 4, Caly 3 & 3.5, Endura -- they all have just a little bit of vertical blade play. All Japan-made. Not noticeable unless I'm cutting something that requires significant downward force but it still bothers me knowing that there’s still some play.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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That's the first of the Native line that has really ever done anything for me lol. But I think I'd wait for Sprints/Exclusives ;)
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2019 Report

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bearfacedkiller wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:39 am
At 2.6 ounces I doubt it has liners.

I am personally super happy about a super lightweight 4 inch knife.

It looks a lot like the C54 Calypso which makes me happy. When do we get the first sprint? :-D
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