Hi Sal,sal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:17 amHi Ferider,
It's more complicated than it might appear. First of all, I don't know that S35VN and M390 are readily available in China. I have heard that some of the Chinese makers are using the steels, but I've not personally tested any of them. I heard that they were buying directly from the foundries, but again, I have no verification of that.
Fair enough a company that fakes a knife is likely going to fake steel as well. But there has been some more reputable companies in China that have been making knives from D2 or CR12mov (lack of 1% 1% Vanadium) for a while now. Then there's also companies like Kershaw who make very popular models like the Copper Natrix in D2.anagarika wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:56 amHope this helps about Chinese D2
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The Kizer knives I've handled (and owned) are beautifully made but could really use some Spyderco design. Anything coming out of this potential partnership would easily become my favorite EDCs. I really, really hope things work out!
IMHO, I think why people are not responding is due to many consider CTS-BD1 a good steel but not a premium steel, so sadly it's become passe. Ironically if you were making it from CTS-BD1N, there would be many people who would be going crazy for it not because it's better but because it's new to them.We have no problem with using higher end steels on byrd brand. But we have to know that the steel is good (clean) and that the maker can work with it. We are trying this with the Polestar and the Alcyone (CTS-BD1). The maker has his own modern heat treating ovens and he's a knife afi. But sales results have not shown that the market is responding to the higher end steel, we think because of the price difference.
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:27 pmHi Cbr,
Is that a Honda Cbr?
One of the things for many to grasp is that not all "XYZ" is the same. This became very apparent when we introduced serrations to the industry. Most companies followed with their own "style of serrations. We spent a long time developing serrations for performance and so our "teeth" performed very differently than the others on the market. This actually gave serrations a bad rap. The same is true of steel. Different foundry's make the "same chemistry" but they are not all the same.
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