New Byrd Knives (Pelican, Flight, Crossbill)

[Slvgx]

The new Byrd designs were also included in that same SHOT Show review where I posted the picture of the Navigator II.

I know a bunch of people are excited about getting to see a Byrd Hawkbill, you all got your wish! :D


The Pelican:


The Flight:


The Crossbill:



Source: http://www.equipped.org/shot_show_2005_knives.htm

[clovisc]

the distinguised dr. lecter surely shall be pleased by the crossbill!

anyone know when these are coming out?!!!!

i'm REALLLLLLY excited for the hawkbill and the wharncliffe!

[The Deacon]

Have to say I've become so addicted to the 50/50 choil that I don't find any of these nearly as interesting as the Meadowlark and Cara Cara.

Does anyone else find it a bit odd that the "low end" Byrd line knives all appear to be using torx screws on the clips while the Kopa and Nav II revert back to phillips heads?

[Hannibal Lecter]

the distinguised dr. lecter surely shall be pleased by the crossbill!

anyone know when these are coming out?!!!!

i'm REALLLLLLY excited for the hawkbill and the wharncliffe!

Pleased is not the word; ecstatic is more accurate. My Lady and I will both be sporting the Crossbill as soon as it is available. I have been looking forward to a new hawkbill from Spyderco for a while now, ever since Sal sort of piqued my curiosity in one of his posts.

I now have the Karambit in my possession; I am amazed. This will be an EDC for certain.

Waiting impatiently on the Szabofly...

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[Jurphaas]

Hi Guys - The introduction of these new family members excite me a lot. I am however, with Paul in his opinion about the 50/50 choil on the Meadowlark and Cara Cara. I EDC the Meadowlark since before X-Mas and it is an absolute wonder!
This knife with its fantastic 440C blade is doing everything in cutting so well and it transmits a great sense of quality. I can truly advise all to take a good look at these very affordable alternatives to the real McCoy.

Paul - are you going for one of these new models?
I like the "Flight" a lot! Also it looks to me that the "Comet" opening hole has been more crisp and better profiled on these third series. I like that!
Jurphaas.

[The Deacon]

Paul - are you going for one of these new models?

Jur - of these, will probably get a Crossbill but pass on the other two. Figure the Crossbill as it's the first, and so far the only, full ambi Byrd model and a PE Hawkbill to boot. Believe I read something about at least the possiblity of FRN versions of these sometime in the future. If that happens, then I'll grab an FRN Pelican and Crossbill, get out the dowel and sandpaper, and see if I can put a 50/50 choils on them.

[Jurphaas]

OK Paul - we'll see what the future may bring. I also like the new clip design very much. It is after the Kopa clip design and it brings a lot of class in this segment of the market.

I'll get them all, I guess.
Have a good one!

[Spydiefan04]

I REALLY like the looks of the flight.

[mikewww]

All this discussion about choils has me, a newbie at knives, confused. The Glossary gives a defenition of a choil, ....as a cutout where the blade meets the ricasso. What is a ricasso? This is not in the glossary. :confused: A nice little labelled sketch would be worth a thousand word. Thanks, guys (and Gals?) Oh, and what makes a choil 50/50 ?

[Slvgx]

Look at the Meadowlark or the Cara Cara, see how there is a notch to place your finger that is like 50% touching the unsharpened metal of the blade and the other 50% touching the metal of the handle? That is the coil.


It helps to control the blade better, and acts as a safety device when closing. It helps because if you accidentally close the knife, many times your finger will be in position to make first contact with the unsharpened coil rather than the sharp edge of the blade.

[The Deacon]

[quote="mikewww"]All this discussion about choils has me, a newbie at knives, confused. The Glossary gives a defenition of a choil, ....as a cutout where the blade meets the ricasso. What is a ricasso? This is not in the glossary. :confused: A nice little labelled sketch would be worth a thousand word. Thanks, guys (and Gals?) ]Believe the ricasso is the unsharpened portion of the blade forward of the handle, that is to say, the exposed portion of the tang. As for 50/50 choils, for starters, all of the models in the picture below, except the Jester, have one, the ones on the Native and Kiwi being the most pronounced. Note how the bottom of the blade tang, forward of the handle and the lower edge of the handle itself work together to create a (reasonably) safe place to grip eaco of these knives, allowing you to "choke up" your grip very close to the working edge, an advantage in some situations. Contrast that "look" with the pictures of the three new Byrds. Some folks swear by the 50/50, some don't.
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[DAYWALKER]

Sweet pics Paul! Love that there Persian of yours!!!

Jurphaas!!! My good far off friend...I was just gonna order a Meadowlark the other night from NGK...

God bless :cool:

[Jurphaas]

Daywalker - My dear friend, spoil your self rotten! Be honest in your reports when you've started EDC'ing your Meadowlark. I am sure that you will like it a lot. I do....

Amazing quality and great design work from Sal and Eric!


Paul - I still love the 50/50 choil, for the new models I believe that these are much larger as the meadowlark and that they therefor are equally well suited for the "Classic" handle configuration they have. From the pictures they show the same great quality and finish as the two earlier models.
A very nice series of knives indeed.
Cheerio Guys!

[Mongo]

thx for the pictures, i feel the Crossbill will be one Byrd i will purchase. This might sound strange but i feel a little resemblance about buying the Byrd line instead of Spyderco. In a way the absence of the round makes it NOT a Spyderco, and although i realise that it is "almost" a Spyderco product it might not meet my expectations. Until the Crossbill i thought the Byrd line was good for the everyday consumer, but seeing the Crossbill will get me into the Byrd line as well. SAL , just drill a hole in the **** thing, put Spyderco on it, so i won't feel like a traitor to the Spyderco brand :D . I know that when it had a hole and was marked Spyderco it is a top notch product, but it get kinda difficult to filter the good ones out from the bad ones with the new Byrd line. They sell Spyderco-like knives on ebay and the Byrd line will make the confusion even bigger


http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 47629&rd=1

[clovisc]

fender guitars has a line of less expensive models under a different brandname -- squire. same exact design, just more economic -- and they can sound pretty good. squire guitars say something like "squire -- by fender" on them. perhaps byrd could clear up the kinds of confusion mongo is talking about by saying something like: "byrd -- by spyderco" ? (or maybe they already do?)

[dialex]

Beautiful new designs. :) While I didn't care much of the first Byrd(s), the Meadowlark came as a revelation. The new ones keep the line (I especially like the Flight). They are so nice they shoud have only a round hole - and G-10 handles :D

[denn]

as nice as some of these Byrd knives may seem and as much as they resemble Spyderco's, and even given the fact that they are of good quality for a decent price......i will not, ever, buy a Byrd, period. i'm sticking with the one and only real deal, :spyder: Spyderco :spyder: :cool:

note to self: must....keep....this....promise :rolleyes:

...... :spyder: :spyder: :spyder: :spyder: .....okay, i'm cool, i can do this. :D

[The Deacon]

Paul - I still love the 50/50 choil, for the new models I believe that these are much larger as the meadowlark and that they therefor are equally well suited for the "Classic" handle configuration they have. From the pictures they show the same great quality and finish as the two earlier models.

Interesting Jur. I admit it's hard for me to judge relative size when all I have to go by are pictures of three I've never handled, and never seen any of in a picture with a knife I have handled. I was "mentally" figuring them to all be of equal size, and placing them somewhere between the Meadowlark and Cara Cara. Are you saying they are larger than that? Even at that size, unless it is made of substaintially thicker steel, I question the Kopa style clip. Darn thing seems flimsy even on that relatively lightweight knife, can't imagine it lasting a day on a 4+ ounce knife.

[druid]

I still like the Meadowlark and the carra carra better mostly because I'm a big fan of coils

[jaislandboy]

hey deacon,
i'm also a newbe on the forum and I found your post re: choils very informative b/c I also had no clue what a 50/50 choil meant! :p
I love 50/50 choils and that's probably why my faves include my Natives (NativeIII serrated, Native frn plain), gray Calypso Jr., SS Kiwi, and blue Dodo plain.....
:cool: 50/50 Choils Reign Supreme! :cool:

I can't fight it any longer....just ordered a Meadowlark from New Graham!

btw your beautiful kiwi-wheel photo is now gracing my wallpaper! :spyder: