Ken,
Sheeple are sheeple. I am happy to call them such to their face and not onlu on a forum.
I am not concerned about giving sheeple a politically correct impression on an internet forum as you appear to be. You say you are not concerned about political correctness but you are trying to promote it here when you frown on the use of the term sheeple. A word that very clearly personifies a mindless herd mentality.
You are interested in how people regard this site, which people? The sheeple? This is a knife site, for knife people.
the dreaded SHEEPLE factor
Misunderstanding!
Sorry!
“A knife site for knife people”
I thought that this site was intended to educate people about Spyderco products and promote their sales. Not exclusively for the use of “knife people”, those already converted. It is, in my opinion, important that members of the herd are enticed away from their mindless wanderings to become new customers.
At what point do we transform from being "Sheeple" to "knife people"? Because we must all have been “Sheeple” at one point having been born without a :spyder: in our hand. Sorry, but this is how ridiculous it is.
As knife enthusiasts we demand to be tolerated, and rightly so! Should we not try to exhibit the same tolerance for those not yet converted? It was not my intention to upset anyone…...but as I am in honesty the least politically correct person you are likely to meet……you can take it any way you want!
Ken :D
“A knife site for knife people”
I thought that this site was intended to educate people about Spyderco products and promote their sales. Not exclusively for the use of “knife people”, those already converted. It is, in my opinion, important that members of the herd are enticed away from their mindless wanderings to become new customers.
At what point do we transform from being "Sheeple" to "knife people"? Because we must all have been “Sheeple” at one point having been born without a :spyder: in our hand. Sorry, but this is how ridiculous it is.
As knife enthusiasts we demand to be tolerated, and rightly so! Should we not try to exhibit the same tolerance for those not yet converted? It was not my intention to upset anyone…...but as I am in honesty the least politically correct person you are likely to meet……you can take it any way you want!
Ken :D
Sheeple is most certainly not a term only used in the knife world. I hear the term every now and then at school or in common day to day talk. Usually it has nothing to do with knives at all. It only means people who do not think for themselves, or follow other trends. Usually it has something to do with the average working corporate zombie and conformity.
I don't want to get too into it because then I just sound like some angst ridden youth, but you get the picture...right?
Scary, huh?
I don't want to get too into it because then I just sound like some angst ridden youth, but you get the picture...right?
Scary, huh?
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Easy, Folks
Many of the dreaded "sheeple" are in fact only in need of a bit of education to enlighten them to the necessity and utility of knives. Ignorance is hardly a crime; many such individuals are simply grossly misinformed. Educate them. Be kind, polite, and measured. Consider purchasing a Jester or the like as a gift for them should their interest be piqued as a means to smooth the way before you.UK KEN wrote:“A knife site for knife people”
I thought that this site was intended to educate people about Spyderco products and promote their sales. Not exclusively for the use of “knife people”, those already converted. It is, in my opinion, important that members of the herd are enticed away from their mindless wanderings to become new customers.
This being said, those who choose to remain ignorant and misinformed, clinging to their invalid assumptions with all the tenacity of a drowning man clinging to a life raft, those may be considered "sheeple". :D
Ta,
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"I have followed with enthusiasm the course of your disgrace and public shaming. My own never bothered me except for the inconvenience of being incarcerated, but you may lack perspective."
"I have followed with enthusiasm the course of your disgrace and public shaming. My own never bothered me except for the inconvenience of being incarcerated, but you may lack perspective."
It's good to talk!
Milu
Nothing wrong with a friendly discussion! This is what forums are for…..I hope that my stomach is safe!
Ken
Nothing wrong with a friendly discussion! This is what forums are for…..I hope that my stomach is safe!
Ken
reactions from non knife people
The worst reaction I've had was from a ss plain edged police. I whipped it out and open in front of a customer to put a carry handle in his box, he saw that and didn't say anything else except thank you as he hurridly walked away.
Simply put, that's what it's all about. I guess the reactions we get from non-knife people are a response to our actions as knife people. Look at it this way, if I pull my ss police from my pocket and whip the blade open aggressively hearing that confirming snap when it locks, a non-knife person might percieve this as a threatening action; and we can all agree that the method of opening our one hand opening knives is by nature fast and deliberate.
Sometimes I like to whip the blade open or flip the blade open with my thumb and when I do this it seems kind of aggressive. That's why I do it, I like it. I guess some people don't like it as much as I like it and when they see that blade snap and appear as if from nowhere, it is not only suprising but maybe a little scary. If we call these scared people sheeple or wimps or ignorant - whatever, the fact is knives are tools and the way that tool is handled will ultimately determine the reaction.
When you take your kiwi out of your pocket and snap it open, nobody has to know you have it, and the same goes for your calypso or your police or endura or ronin for that matter, it's when you make the tool's presence known that a reaction will occur. Does that make sence?
I don't post too often but I sure read a lot here, and agree with, and love to read this info but believe me, the last thing I want to do is offend some non-knife person by whipping out a knife and start cutting boxes with reckless abandon; I'd prefer to be halfway done cutting before the sheeple even recognizes that I had something other than a box cutter and if sheeple even recognizes what I'm carrying hopefully the way I'm using it will cause no concern.
Simply put, that's what it's all about. I guess the reactions we get from non-knife people are a response to our actions as knife people. Look at it this way, if I pull my ss police from my pocket and whip the blade open aggressively hearing that confirming snap when it locks, a non-knife person might percieve this as a threatening action; and we can all agree that the method of opening our one hand opening knives is by nature fast and deliberate.
Sometimes I like to whip the blade open or flip the blade open with my thumb and when I do this it seems kind of aggressive. That's why I do it, I like it. I guess some people don't like it as much as I like it and when they see that blade snap and appear as if from nowhere, it is not only suprising but maybe a little scary. If we call these scared people sheeple or wimps or ignorant - whatever, the fact is knives are tools and the way that tool is handled will ultimately determine the reaction.
When you take your kiwi out of your pocket and snap it open, nobody has to know you have it, and the same goes for your calypso or your police or endura or ronin for that matter, it's when you make the tool's presence known that a reaction will occur. Does that make sence?
I don't post too often but I sure read a lot here, and agree with, and love to read this info but believe me, the last thing I want to do is offend some non-knife person by whipping out a knife and start cutting boxes with reckless abandon; I'd prefer to be halfway done cutting before the sheeple even recognizes that I had something other than a box cutter and if sheeple even recognizes what I'm carrying hopefully the way I'm using it will cause no concern.
jwyslak hit it right on the nail. it depends hugely on the way you draw and open your knife how people will react to you and your knife. things like wrist-flicking, spydie-dropping, reverse-openings, balisongs-flips and automatic-snaps are most likely to attract adverse attention from other people. especially combined with a 'tough' look on your face and lightning-speed opening and agile handling of the knife will make people way more scared.
if you do not want to upset people, draw your knife slowly, open it slowly, cut slowly and *smile*, hehehheh :D
if you do not want to upset people, draw your knife slowly, open it slowly, cut slowly and *smile*, hehehheh :D
just my .02
i consider sheeple to be people who will comment on any knife other than one found in the kitchen drawer
when i first met my girlfriend's dad he asked me not to carry my Pe Navigator in his house, - i complied with his request - however he never saw cold steel ready edge hanging round my neck
2 months later i sharpened his swisstool for him
a month after that he asked me if i had a knife on me - as i wasnt at his house i was carrying my se delica.
after hacking up a cardboard box with it he handed it back saying "nice knife that - cuts really well"
he still now doesnt like me carrying knives but he doesnt comment on my paramillie - i think the full size millie would get some negative comments though
the point of this is - i have shown him that i am a responsible knife user who isnt going do anything silly - i look after my knives by keeping them sharp and clean.
i also selected a small knife to carry when i first met him
if he had seen my rescue or millie i think i would have got a "get the f*** out of my house you freak" but now he is ok with me carrying
i consider sheeple to be people who will comment on any knife other than one found in the kitchen drawer
when i first met my girlfriend's dad he asked me not to carry my Pe Navigator in his house, - i complied with his request - however he never saw cold steel ready edge hanging round my neck
2 months later i sharpened his swisstool for him
a month after that he asked me if i had a knife on me - as i wasnt at his house i was carrying my se delica.
after hacking up a cardboard box with it he handed it back saying "nice knife that - cuts really well"
he still now doesnt like me carrying knives but he doesnt comment on my paramillie - i think the full size millie would get some negative comments though
the point of this is - i have shown him that i am a responsible knife user who isnt going do anything silly - i look after my knives by keeping them sharp and clean.
i also selected a small knife to carry when i first met him
if he had seen my rescue or millie i think i would have got a "get the f*** out of my house you freak" but now he is ok with me carrying
The comment about the Navigator and Echo63's knives in general have absolutely nothing to do with the knife itself and everything to do with the guy carrying the knife. Not to say that he didn't or doesn't like Echo but he happens to be the man in his little girl's life and he was probably just being overprotective at first. It's happened to me many times although never having to do directly with my carrying of knives(this may be because all the fathers of the girlfriends I've had have at least one EDC of their own).crahen wrote:Echo63-
He doesn't want you to carry a Navigator (which is a small knife), but he has a Swisstool? If I'm not mistaken the Swisstool has a good bit bigger blade on it than a Navigator. Very interesting.
ASmitty-
I understand what your saying. And you're probably right. But, being a 55 year old father myself, unless the guy really struck me as a schmuck, I think my reaction would be "hey cool knife, can I have a look at it?"
But of course we all see things different ways, especially when it come to our children.
I understand what your saying. And you're probably right. But, being a 55 year old father myself, unless the guy really struck me as a schmuck, I think my reaction would be "hey cool knife, can I have a look at it?"
But of course we all see things different ways, especially when it come to our children.