Dear Sal and all,sal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:22 pmTaking apart knives – part 2
I’d like to thank all of you for the great information on the issue mentioned. My primary purpose for the thread was more to raise awareness that it is a problem and hope that just the greater awareness would help contribute to reducing the problem. Many people didn’t ever realize it was a problem.
I stayed out of the discussion because I really needed your input without my opinions involved. With the many posts, I have a lot to study.
FYI, we don’t plan to pin our knives or make it impossible for you to take them apart. We will continually try to make them stronger so if you do take them apart, it will be more difficult to damage them. (Eg: the case of the flippers & the washers). Trying to add something to determine “IF” they were taken apart is probably not something we can expect dealers to pay much attention to, especially dealers like Amazon. Also it becomes a “policing action” which has its own issues.
I would hope that you will discourage others from returning tampered knives and if you were doing it, you now know it is a problem.
Fruitful discussion. Thanx much. (I will be discussing the shipping of internal parts on another thread).
thank you for an interesting subject of discussion. I did not participate in the first thread because basically, a number of posters expressed the same views as mine (I like to be able to take apart my knives, if only just to be able to clean them thoroughly - that despite the valuable argument from a member that he owns a pinned knife he has used for decades to do dirty work - field dressing game - without major inconvenient).
However there was an interesting comment from someone saying that, contrary to guns, folding knives are not designed to be routinely taken apart and cleaned. Which makes me think of a line of knives (CRKT, maybe others) using the Ken Onion’s Field Strip Technology. While I don't own such a knife, I understand that the goal is to be able to very easily take apart the knife for cleaning, maybe even without tools, a lot like what we can do with guns.
So wouldn't it be an exciting challenge for Spyderco to think about and design a line of field knives that would be conceived from the get-go to be taken apart by the owner, be it without specific tool or with a tool provided with the knife? A knife made with the same quality and precision we love in Spyderco's products, that could be unmistakably put back together by the owner with the same tight tolerances as when it got out of the factory and without any possibility for (just an example) getting a badly centered blade? And by quality I mean built with better materials than the Jesper Voxnaes HVAS Folding Knife by CRKT I am looking at right now on he KC website, (glass filled nylon (GFN) handle and run of the mill stainless steel).
Just a thought I had, although Spyderco may have thought of it already - and I am conscious that it would not solve the issue of other knives wrongly returned to Amazon or other dealers after having been tampered with.
[If someone wants to argue that the knives most easily cleaned are fixed blade knives, I will answer in advance that carrying a fixed blade knife does not preclude from carrying a folding knife at the same time, they just complete each other, so the cleaning issue remains as regards the folding one IMHO].