2 weeks edc serrations

[ThePeacent]

And far, far easier with a machete :).

And how does one EDC a machete?

it can't be that hard,
150 million South Americans
250 million Africans
and 500 million Asians do it every day

:confused:

[Evil D]

And far, far easier with a machete :).

And how does one EDC a machete?

it can't be that hard,
150 million South Americans
250 million Africans
and 500 million Asians do it every day

:confused:

We blue collar slaves aren't allowed to carry short swords

[JD Spydo]

And far, far easier with a machete :).

And how does one EDC a machete?

it can't be that hard,
150 million South Americans
250 million Africans
and 500 million Asians do it every day

:confused:

We blue collar slaves aren't allowed to carry short swords

I've been carrying some sort of a pocket knife since I was about 9 years old :cool: My dad believe it or not made sure I always had a pocket knife. So why can't any man or woman ( who isn't a criminal) exercise their Second Amendment Rights and carry any pocket knife ( within reason of course) anywhere at anytime?

Now back to serrated edged blades ( folders or fixed blades) I've found to draw less attention from sheeple than plain edged blades seem to draw :confused: . And not all serrated blades are created equal by any means. Spyderco actually took serrated edges to a completely higher/better level. There are more guys here at Spyderville who EDC Spyderedged blades than most of you all realize. My good pal "Spydutch" will only use Spyderedged blades. He won't even consider plain edges the last time I talked to him. Spyderco's serrated blade known as the "Spyderedge" is completely different than 95% of all the other serrated knives out there on the commercial knife market. But many people tend to lump all serrated edges into one category>> they are so wrong unfortunately.

[Evil D]

I've been carrying some sort of a pocket knife since I was about 9 years old :cool: My dad believe it or not made sure I always had a pocket knife. So why can't any man or woman ( who isn't a criminal) exercise their Second Amendment Rights and carry any pocket knife ( within reason of course) anywhere at anytime?

We are still talking about a machete right? As in jungle bushwhacking 20+ inch blade? Are you guys actually saying you'd carry such a thing???? Man I wouldn't even carry one in my tool box. I get that out in front of a customer and I may as well fire myself lol.

[JD Spydo]

I've been carrying some sort of a pocket knife since I was about 9 years old :cool: My dad believe it or not made sure I always had a pocket knife. So why can't any man or woman ( who isn't a criminal) exercise their Second Amendment Rights and carry any pocket knife ( within reason of course) anywhere at anytime?

We are still talking about a machete right? As in jungle bushwhacking 20+ inch blade? Are you guys actually saying you'd carry such a thing???? Man I wouldn't even carry one in my tool box. I get that out in front of a customer and I may as well fire myself lol.

I do have two different Gurkha Kukri models that I EDC when I go into woods or timber or any other wild place. Actually I won't even go hiking without one of the machete type blades anymore.

I guess my point was that if it's truly something you need for work regardless of it being a machete or a two inch folder a law abiding adult should be able to carry and use one with no problem. I don't carry the big blades here in town because I really don't need them for much here in KC. Getting back to the subject of serrated blades I find I need a Spyderedged and plain edge folder on a daily basis and I carry both every day with no problems.

[curlyhairedboy]

I'm thinking of picking up a matriarch to try out both a belly and a hawkbill in SE. Thoughts?

Capital Idea! Please report your findings.

I should have an Atlantic Salt coming in (gift), so there'll be neither a belly nor a hawkbill, but it will be spyderedge!

[vivi]

I've done a lot of really excessive work with knives cutting up bushes/branches/brush and that's one area where SE just do not get it done as well as PE. Gardening is a different story, smaller stems and vines are where SE really shines, but when it's time to cut through a 1 inch sapling it's far easier with PE. It might help if the serrations were cut on the back side of the blade (for a right handed person), at least then you could get the edge more flat on the branch and get it to bite better.

Are you cutting or chopping? I chop through 1" saplings with folders on a fairly regular basis and I've found SE works a bit better because it grabs the branch I'm chopping a little better. Even cutting them I'd take a factory SE or PE because it comes ground so much thinner, but I find chopping 1" saplings is quicker either way. With a nice flick of the wrist they usually go in one swing.

[Evil D]

I've done a lot of really excessive work with knives cutting up bushes/branches/brush and that's one area where SE just do not get it done as well as PE. Gardening is a different story, smaller stems and vines are where SE really shines, but when it's time to cut through a 1 inch sapling it's far easier with PE. It might help if the serrations were cut on the back side of the blade (for a right handed person), at least then you could get the edge more flat on the branch and get it to bite better.

Are you cutting or chopping? I chop through 1" saplings with folders on a fairly regular basis and I've found SE works a bit better because it grabs the branch I'm chopping a little better. Even cutting them I'd take a factory SE or PE because it comes ground so much thinner, but I find chopping 1" saplings is quicker either way. With a nice flick of the wrist they usually go in one swing.

Basically whittle my way through in large slices going around the branch.

[vivi]

Try giving it a chop, then bending the sapling. If it doesn't break right away another chop will do it in. Bigger, heavier folders can chop right through in one swing with a thin, sharp edge.

[zhyla]

LOL I was not suggesting anyone EDC a machete unless their job is landscaping. But I also don’t consider 1” saplings to be a common EDC task that I need to be ready for.

[Skoalart]

I am holding to it, just to say I tried. I will probably end up getting something SE like the matriarch or civilian. Maybe an Endura. I do see how ce and se can benefit some situations, but in my work and home life.... PE all day!


And if yall lives in Texas you can carry anything you so choose, such as a machete or katana. I carry my 14" s&w tanto homeland security.

[bearfacedkiller]

Whenever you bend something one side is the compression side and one side is the extension side. I find that with branches and saplings around one inch that if you just bend them that you can cut through from the extension side at 45 degrees in one cut.

[Evil D]

And if yall lives in Texas you can carry anything you so choose, such as a machete or katana. I carry my 14" s&w tanto homeland security.

In KY I can carry anything I want. It's not the state laws I worry about it's my employer's rules. Even if I could carry a machete, the times I'd really need it can't justify carrying it when a decent folder can get the job done. Anything I can't get with a Military is beyond what I'm required to do anyway.

[Skoalart]

I am lucky to have a boss that doesn't worry. He has known me a good while and I have always been that 'knife nut'. Most of the time I carry some of my bigger knives just because I can. No reason to have, something just for show. I like to get my money's worth. At my place of employment honestly any blade over 6 inches is really impractical. There are a few guys I work with that have some respect for blades, and they carry their way-out-of-place camp/survival fixed blades every now and then.

Before I go off on that tangent any longer....both of the knife guys I work with are torn on serrations as well. One of them has no problem with serrated edges, yet prefers a PE at work. The other guy doesn't really care for them, but hasn't had a real chance. I talked both of them into getting a knife with CE or SE and carry it for a month.

Here I am not even a big fan, but still trying to be open minded. I really love all things that are intended to be sharp. I would rather encourage everyone to edc a knife that I don't like, than to pass biased judgment on them and potentially lessen the number of people who are my blade brothers (or sisters).

It just seems like I should see people carry knives more often than I do. I love random encounters where I see the end of a knife poking out of someone's pocket. I love striking up conversations with other proud knife owners.

[Evil D]

For me it really came down to sharpening them as well as I can my PE blades, and I really think if people are honest that's the biggest issue. My biggest complaint in use is snagging but when they are really and truly sharp they don't snag they obliterate everything in their path. I'm also finding that they perform better with a heavy hand, the more you try to be easy going through a cut the more likely they are to snag, if you white knuckle it and really go for it they destroy everything.

[vivi]

For me it really came down to sharpening them as well as I can my PE blades, and I really think if people are honest that's the biggest issue. My biggest complaint in use is snagging but when they are really and truly sharp they don't snag they obliterate everything in their path. I'm also finding that they perform better with a heavy hand, the more you try to be easy going through a cut the more likely they are to snag, if you white knuckle it and really go for it they destroy everything.

I agree 100%.

I didn't like serrations prior to teaching myself to sharpen them.

I also didn't like PE knives as much when I couldn't sharpen them, but it's easy to forget ancient feelings like that :D

Get a serrated knife sharp enough to push cut through those flimsy plastic grocery bags and it'll make you understand the term pocket chainsaw!

[Skoalart]

Well I am now saving up for either the Matriarch with the Emerson wave feature or the Pacific Salt SE. I think a fully serrated blade will give me a better idea of what to like (or hate) about serrations. Because now that I have a week or 10 days left on my month challenge, I still subconsciously go for my millie first.

I have a lanky blade medic with a small tapered diamond rod that I use to sharpen the serrations, but I have to spend an absurd amount of time to get my serrations as sharp as the rest of the knife. I also use sandpaper with different diameter drill bits to give me another option, but overall I think I would rather sharpen cpm m4 on crappy hones than serrations any day.

[zhyla]

I have a lanky blade medic with a small tapered diamond rod that I use to sharpen the serrations, but I have to spend an absurd amount of time to get my serrations as sharp as the rest of the knife. I also use sandpaper with different diameter drill bits to give me another option, but overall I think I would rather sharpen cpm m4 on crappy hones than serrations any day.

I use medium, fine, ultrafine sharpmaker stones and then polish with a dremel buffing wheel and polishing compound. While I've only done this with VG-10 and other easy to sharpen steels, it takes almost no time and results in a reliably sharp blade. Make sure you mark the edge with permanent marker so you can see what you're doing.

[vivi]

Well I am now saving up for either the Matriarch with the Emerson wave feature or the Pacific Salt SE. I think a fully serrated blade will give me a better idea of what to like (or hate) about serrations. Because now that I have a week or 10 days left on my month challenge, I still subconsciously go for my millie first.

I have a lanky blade medic with a small tapered diamond rod that I use to sharpen the serrations, but I have to spend an absurd amount of time to get my serrations as sharp as the rest of the knife. I also use sandpaper with different diameter drill bits to give me another option, but overall I think I would rather sharpen cpm m4 on crappy hones than serrations any day.

Here's a video I made showing my method for touching up my Pacific Salt SE. It's just as quick as PE, if not faster.

https://sendvid.com/y1g52h5l

Very simple stuff.

I use the 15 degree slots which work with most Spyderco SE knives. I may have gotten one that required 20 degree slots but try 15 first.

Using the corners, it's basically the same stroke as with a PE knife. I go a touch slower and use a bit more pressure compared to PE, in an effort to keep the knife from bouncing around as I slide across the serrations.

I usually do 4-6 strokes on the presentation side, then one nearly flat to the stone on the back.

When I finish, sometimes I'll rub a bunch of buffing compound on the corner of my strop, and use the same technique I did on the stones in reverse, edge trailing.

When I'm done touching it up it will push cut receipts a few inches from where I'm holding and whittle individual hairs. SE's are a lot of fun to use when they're that sharp...not so much when they're dull. They should always cut rather than tear.

[JD Spydo]

And if yall lives in Texas you can carry anything you so choose, such as a machete or katana. I carry my 14" s&w tanto homeland security.

In KY I can carry anything I want. It's not the state laws I worry about it's my employer's rules. Even if I could carry a machete, the times I'd really need it can't justify carrying it when a decent folder can get the job done. Anything I can't get with a Military is beyond what I'm required to do anyway.

Like I said before about the only time I EDC a machete ( or Gurkha Kukri in my case) is when I go into the woods hiking or hunting. Now when I was still in the tree trimming'/removal business I always had a machete with me all the time. I've never had a serrated machete ( or Gurkha) :rolleyes: before :D

Yeah I'm blessed like you are EVIL D because here in Missouri if you don't do anything to cause trouble they don't seem to care what you carry in the line of pocket knives and in rural areas of Missouri I've even carried my TEMP 1 fixed blade many times and been around police and game wardens and no one has ever called me out on it at all. Actually I've had Police and Firefighters both want to check out my Spyders and most of them have been impressed :cool: They have a 4 inch limit here in Missouri but if you don't cause trouble they don't bother you at all and they act like they could care less if you are a regular citizen.

I can't imagine not having a serrated blade on me daily. I'm to the point now if I were restricted to just one folder to EDC I would select a full Spyderedged folder first.