MAP policy change? 35%

[bh49]

I want to thank software guys for creating "ignore list"...

FYI it's now called "foes". I went hunting for it yesterday and couldn't find it. You motivated me again today. I figured that trips earned a "foe" designation even if it means that he won't like me anymore. Poof, he's gone. Thanks

I know. But in my book, you can respect foe. IMHO "ignore list" fits better.

[bh49]

Thanks for the reminder Roman. This thread just became tolerable again.

Landon,
You know, I always glad to help. I agree that the thread look good again :D :)

[archangel]

I‘m still going to buy the spydies that I really want and can afford, and the announced changes to pricing won‘t change that. I knew I wanted a Caribbean and a Para3 Maxamet from the moment they were annouced, and I‘m gonna get them at some point during 2018. Plus two sprints, if I’m lucky enough to get them (were preordered from KC the day after they became available). Plus maybe one or two more that come into reach one way or the other. I may end up buying less spydies in the coming years, but basically only because of my own collection policy. End of story.

[RamZar]

Time to abandon this thread (at least for a while) & negative thoughts (always), face the facts (reality) and have a Happy New Year (bliss)...

[archangel]

Hear hear

[ThePeacent]

Good 2018 to you all, I wish you health, happiness and many Spydercos!
:spyder:
...and Trips, you could do a list of resolutions for this new year and put on top a change of attitude, especially when and where you are a guest at other's house, in this case Sal's and Eric.

[vivi]

So you reground a paramilitary, used an ancient Spyderco, and reground a police for some cardboard tests.

It looks ancient because it's been my work knife for a decade :p That's what knives look like when they're used

I do similar mundane things like cutting food, opening beer bottles, cutting my nails, opening boxes, prying off staples, bending back nails, etc with this $60 Buck Vantage Force Pro, and guess what else? This knife has that magical "vanadium" and other alloying metals you seek on zknives.com. At $60 it has that super duper steel that super duper Phil Wilson hyped up way back in 2005 or so. I'm glad I'm not the guy who spent $200 on that Copperhead snake Taiwan model just to do the same things I just mentioned lol.

What can your moneybags Buck knife do that my $25 Cold Steel Spike doesn't, at less than half the price?

Sounds like you're trying to justify wasting so much money on S30V after buying into the edge retention hype.

[Hopsbreath]

Spoken like someone who doesn't run a small business. They should just stay small and broke and never improve or make better products and keep selling you the same old Delica over and over for the same price?

I work in a CPA firm, and am actually educated, trust me, I know more about "business" than you do.

This is one of the most absurd things I’ve ever read on this forum. Working at a CPA firm and being educated don’t mean squat. You know how many people in my life I can say that about who I wouldn’t trust to feed my cat let alone give me “business” advice? I’ll take the 60 year old small business owner with no education any day over someone who says “trust me”.

[tripscheck'em]

So you reground a paramilitary, used an ancient Spyderco, and reground a police for some cardboard tests.

It looks ancient because it's been my work knife for a decade :p That's what knives look like when they're used

I do similar mundane things like cutting food, opening beer bottles, cutting my nails, opening boxes, prying off staples, bending back nails, etc with this $60 Buck Vantage Force Pro, and guess what else? This knife has that magical "vanadium" and other alloying metals you seek on zknives.com. At $60 it has that super duper steel that super duper Phil Wilson hyped up way back in 2005 or so. I'm glad I'm not the guy who spent $200 on that Copperhead snake Taiwan model just to do the same things I just mentioned lol.

What can your moneybags Buck knife do that my $25 Cold Steel Spike doesn't, at less than half the price?

Sounds like you're trying to justify wasting so much money on S30V after buying into the edge retention hype.

It looks ancient because it is ancient. I hope you would have used it to some extent after 10 years, and really that makes you a unique poster here. Looks like I was spot on in everything else I said, like doing cardboard tests with a police of all things lol. Brilliant.

Never said edge retention as such is hype, so your strawman is moot, just that s30v/d2/xhp is the optimal middle ground and everything after that is meaningless innuendo, let alone meme steels like "Cruwear" and the japanese sushi steels that you people declare to all be the best ever.

[tripscheck'em]

Spoken like someone who doesn't run a small business. They should just stay small and broke and never improve or make better products and keep selling you the same old Delica over and over for the same price?

I work in a CPA firm, and am actually educated, trust me, I know more about "business" than you do.

What I'm saying is this. Some people get screwed out of their money more than others, and Spyderco is really taking the piss now when it comes to screwing people out of their money. Want to help yourselves? Boycott them into submission, because they're essentially doing the same thing to you.

Everything in "business" is purely oppositional, zero-sum, a "numbers game." Screw or be screwed.

No... you merely WANT it to be "purely oppositional", probably because of its simplicity: you demonstrably cannot understand the alternatives to confrontation, or their worth, and which is also why you rant against Spyderco & it's customers.

******
*EDITED - TazKristi*

[tripscheck'em]

Ignoring or preferably banning is what makes sense to me but I'm not running this forum.
A forum needs a set of rules whether explicit or not and some of those rules concern polite discourse.

"Polite discourse" typically translates into Safe Space. Sorry I wrecked your Safe Space.

[Hopsbreath]

Spoken like someone who doesn't run a small business. They should just stay small and broke and never improve or make better products and keep selling you the same old Delica over and over for the same price?

I work in a CPA firm, and am actually educated, trust me, I know more about "business" than you do.

What I'm saying is this. Some people get screwed out of their money more than others, and Spyderco is really taking the piss now when it comes to screwing people out of their money. Want to help yourselves? Boycott them into submission, because they're essentially doing the same thing to you.

Everything in "business" is purely oppositional, zero-sum, a "numbers game." Screw or be screwed.

No... you merely WANT it to be "purely oppositional", probably because of its simplicity: you demonstrably cannot understand the alternatives to confrontation, or their worth, and which is also why you rant against Spyderco & it's customers.

******

***
*EDITED - TazKristi*

[vivi]

So you reground a paramilitary, used an ancient Spyderco, and reground a police for some cardboard tests.

It looks ancient because it's been my work knife for a decade :p That's what knives look like when they're used

I do similar mundane things like cutting food, opening beer bottles, cutting my nails, opening boxes, prying off staples, bending back nails, etc with this $60 Buck Vantage Force Pro, and guess what else? This knife has that magical "vanadium" and other alloying metals you seek on zknives.com. At $60 it has that super duper steel that super duper Phil Wilson hyped up way back in 2005 or so. I'm glad I'm not the guy who spent $200 on that Copperhead snake Taiwan model just to do the same things I just mentioned lol.

What can your moneybags Buck knife do that my $25 Cold Steel Spike doesn't, at less than half the price?

Sounds like you're trying to justify wasting so much money on S30V after buying into the edge retention hype.

It looks ancient because it is ancient. I hope you would have used it to some extent after 10 years, and really that makes you a unique poster here. Looks like I was spot on in everything else I said, like doing cardboard tests with a police of all things lol. Brilliant.

Never said edge retention as such is hype, so your strawman is moot, just that s30v/d2/xhp is the optimal middle ground and everything after that is meaningless innuendo, let alone meme steels like "Cruwear" and the japanese sushi steels that you people declare to all be the best ever.

So you argue for a need for S30V over CTSBD1/440C type of steels but think people arguing for steels like S110V are memeing?

Solid logic. Just like the logic that anyone who reprofiles a knife is just doing cardboard cutting tests rather than optimizing a tool for their uses. Or the logic that because you carry a tiny 3" knife everyone else does.
:rolleyes:

Spot on man, lmao.

[tripscheck'em]

Spoken like someone who doesn't run a small business. They should just stay small and broke and never improve or make better products and keep selling you the same old Delica over and over for the same price?

I work in a CPA firm, and am actually educated, trust me, I know more about "business" than you do.

What I'm saying is this. Some people get screwed out of their money more than others, and Spyderco is really taking the piss now when it comes to screwing people out of their money. Want to help yourselves? Boycott them into submission, because they're essentially doing the same thing to you.

Everything in "business" is purely oppositional, zero-sum, a "numbers game." Screw or be screwed.

No... you merely WANT it to be "purely oppositional", probably because of its simplicity: you demonstrably cannot understand the alternatives to confrontation, or their worth, and which is also why you rant against Spyderco & it's customers.

*****

*****

>references a liberal propaganda rag
>"it's objectively true"
well done

*EDITED - TazKristi*

[tripscheck'em]

So you reground a paramilitary, used an ancient Spyderco, and reground a police for some cardboard tests.

It looks ancient because it's been my work knife for a decade :p That's what knives look like when they're used

I do similar mundane things like cutting food, opening beer bottles, cutting my nails, opening boxes, prying off staples, bending back nails, etc with this $60 Buck Vantage Force Pro, and guess what else? This knife has that magical "vanadium" and other alloying metals you seek on zknives.com. At $60 it has that super duper steel that super duper Phil Wilson hyped up way back in 2005 or so. I'm glad I'm not the guy who spent $200 on that Copperhead snake Taiwan model just to do the same things I just mentioned lol.

What can your moneybags Buck knife do that my $25 Cold Steel Spike doesn't, at less than half the price?

Sounds like you're trying to justify wasting so much money on S30V after buying into the edge retention hype.

It looks ancient because it is ancient. I hope you would have used it to some extent after 10 years, and really that makes you a unique poster here. Looks like I was spot on in everything else I said, like doing cardboard tests with a police of all things lol. Brilliant.

Never said edge retention as such is hype, so your strawman is moot, just that s30v/d2/xhp is the optimal middle ground and everything after that is meaningless innuendo, let alone meme steels like "Cruwear" and the japanese sushi steels that you people declare to all be the best ever.

So you argue for a need for S30V over CTSBD1/440C type of steels but think people arguing for steels like S110V are memeing?

Solid logic. Just like the logic that anyone who reprofiles a knife is just doing cardboard cutting tests rather than optimizing a tool for their uses. Or the logic that because you carry a tiny 3" knife everyone else does.:rolleyes: Spot on man, lmao.

Ok, you're trying to shore up your strawman, I'll help.
BD1/440c are fine, I like them. But there's two problems 1) virtually no one trust worthy offers 440c anymore, thanks to you people, and BD1 is only offered by Cold Steel (mall ninjas) and Spyderco (massively overpriced) for like $80. Why pay $80 for bd1, or $90 soon to be, for a company I no longer support, when I can get s30v for $60 from a reputable company?
It's like you totally forgot about prices.

>optimizing tools for your uses
not sure what in the world you would be using the police for with that profile, but ok.

[vivi]

"Polite discourse" typically translates into Safe Space. Sorry I wrecked your Safe Space.

*****

spoken like a teenager that recently stumbled on t_d lol. at least come up with something original.

*EDITED - TazKristi*

[vivi]

So you reground a paramilitary, used an ancient Spyderco, and reground a police for some cardboard tests.

It looks ancient because it's been my work knife for a decade :p That's what knives look like when they're used

I do similar mundane things like cutting food, opening beer bottles, cutting my nails, opening boxes, prying off staples, bending back nails, etc with this $60 Buck Vantage Force Pro, and guess what else? This knife has that magical "vanadium" and other alloying metals you seek on zknives.com. At $60 it has that super duper steel that super duper Phil Wilson hyped up way back in 2005 or so. I'm glad I'm not the guy who spent $200 on that Copperhead snake Taiwan model just to do the same things I just mentioned lol.

What can your moneybags Buck knife do that my $25 Cold Steel Spike doesn't, at less than half the price?

Sounds like you're trying to justify wasting so much money on S30V after buying into the edge retention hype.

It looks ancient because it is ancient. I hope you would have used it to some extent after 10 years, and really that makes you a unique poster here. Looks like I was spot on in everything else I said, like doing cardboard tests with a police of all things lol. Brilliant.

Never said edge retention as such is hype, so your strawman is moot, just that s30v/d2/xhp is the optimal middle ground and everything after that is meaningless innuendo, let alone meme steels like "Cruwear" and the japanese sushi steels that you people declare to all be the best ever.

So you argue for a need for S30V over CTSBD1/440C type of steels but think people arguing for steels like S110V are memeing?

Solid logic. Just like the logic that anyone who reprofiles a knife is just doing cardboard cutting tests rather than optimizing a tool for their uses. Or the logic that because you carry a tiny 3" knife everyone else does.:rolleyes: Spot on man, lmao.

Ok, you're trying to shore up your strawman, I'll help.
BD1/440c are fine, I like them. But there's two problems 1) virtually no one trust worthy offers 440c anymore, thanks to you people, and BD1 is only offered by Cold Steel (mall ninjas) and Spyderco (massively overpriced) for like $80. Why pay $80 for bd1, or $90 soon to be, for a company I no longer support, when I can get s30v for $60 from a reputable company?
It's like you totally forgot about prices.

>optimizing tools for your uses
not sure what in the world you would be using the police for with that profile, but ok.

Plenty of companies offer 440C.

Spyderco has offered S30V knives for $40 if you want to get hung up on price.

I use that Police for the same things you say you use your Buck for, and then some.

[TazKristi]

tripscheck'em won't be continuing this discussion. His behavior is unwarranted. We're willing to have tough discussions and we're always going to listen. We welcome ALL feedback - good, bad, or otherwise but I will not tolerate insults directed at other members.

I'm sorry that I didn't make it in here sooner - I've been on vacation since Christmas. I'll jump back in tomorrow and clean this up.

Have a good night all.

Kristi

[Hopsbreath]

"Polite discourse" typically translates into Safe Space. Sorry I wrecked your Safe Space.

yeah, you're a *****

spoken like a teenager that recently stumbled on t_d lol. at least come up with something original.

Seriously, it’s like he’s writing to us from 2016. Maybe he’s smarter than we give him credit for and built a time machine.

*EDITED - TazKristi*

[Eli Chaps]

tripscheck'em won't be continuing this discussion. His behavior is unwarranted. We're willing to have tough discussions and we're always going to listen. We welcome ALL feedback - good, bad, or otherwise but I will not tolerate insults directed at other members.

I'm sorry that I didn't make it in here sooner - I've been on vacation since Christmas. I'll jump back in tomorrow and clean this up.

Have a good night all.

Kristi

Happy New Year ma'am and thank you.