Vivi wrote:My tenacious came tip up, same with my c95 manix
Possibly your Tenacious wasn't totally new. Check the photos on the Spyderco website- they all show tip down. The 4 that I bought new all came tip down.
My first pm2 came (from KW i believe?) with the clip mounted for tip up. Possible someone changed it and returned it but it's certainly possible that one escapes the factory like that on rare occasions. Human beings in the factory are screwing those clips on. Somebody is bound to be daydreaming once in a blue moon.
Dunno what to say. I personally inspected 6 different ones when I bought mine in person at a local sporting goods store. All were tip up. This was when they were brand new so maybe things have changed since then.
If it were just mine I found like that I'd be inclined to think Lance is right on this one, but seeing six that way I'm at a loss as to what to say :)
Since Spyderco pioneered the concept of mounting a pocket clip on a folding knife 35 years ago, clips have come a long way. We have also learned a lot about how to make clips work best on knives of various styles, sizes, and handle materials to offer maximum versatility, convenience, and durability. Although their function is deceptively simple, there are many details to consider when choosing a clip—both during the design process and as a consumer.
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Tip-down carry works best for large folders like the Military™ Model. If large, long-handled knives are carried tip-up, when drawn your hand grips the handle close to the butt end—too far from the blade hole, flipper tab, or thumb stud for an immediate one-handed opening. With tip-down carry, you grip the pivot-pin end of the knife and ultimately end up in a better position to open the blade, but only after adjusting your grip after the draw. Tip-down carry also works well with some specialized one-hand opening methods that initially grip the blade instead of the handle.
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Vivi wrote:My tenacious came tip up, same with my c95 manix
Possibly your Tenacious wasn't totally new. Check the photos on the Spyderco website- they all show tip down. The 4 that I bought new all came tip down.
Same here. My Tenacious’ came new tip down. Switched them within 2 min. I can’t stand tip down. Just my preference.
Since Spyderco pioneered the concept of mounting a pocket clip on a folding knife 35 years ago, clips have come a long way.
One of the most basic clip decisions is whether it should be tip-up or tip-down.
Surfingringo wrote:My guess would be that on the knives with 4 way clip option, they position the clip on the larger models for tip down and the smaller ones for tip up. I would also speculate that the cutoff (between what's designated large/small) would be somewhere in the 3.5" range.
...and in the interest of debunking my own theory I will point out that the pm2 has a 3.44" blade and comes mounted for tip down while the Stretch 2 has a 3.45" blade and comes mounted for tip up. So, what do I know? :rolleyes: :D
Haha!
Ryan
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