Where is the chuckle emoticon :confused:Cheddarnut wrote:The only person that measures things concealed in my pants is me, so its a non issue over here. Not a legal one anyhow.
That's sad :eek:Cheddarnut wrote:The only person that measures things concealed in my pants is me, so its a non issue over here. Not a legal one anyhow.
-Derek
This is the way I see it. It would be safer. In fact, this may work in your favor as you can show that you purposely were carrying a knife advertized to be less than the legal limit, in my opinion, and receive the benefit of the doubt.Northglenn500 wrote:I think what the OP is saying is, document the actual blade length on the on-line catalog. Then, when an officer looks up the knife to verify the blade length of what he/she believes to be a 3" knife is actually listed at 2.95", and is therefore not considered an illegal knife. In Colorado, most municipal, as well as the state criminal statutes state "3.5 inches or longer.." Having it listed by the manufacturer as 3.45 would go a long way towards helping those who have to talk to the Police.
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
Truth be told, a lot of cops probably still use the 4 fingers = 3" method.bearfacedkiller wrote:I don't think that any cop is gonna pull out his cell phone and start looking up the listed specs for a knife. I have also never read a knife law that said anything about factory specs, only actual length. The cop will measure it, make a decision and leave up to the court to settle. When you get to court they aren't gonna care about specs either, only actual measurements.
In many places it is just a fine so talking about getting a lawyer doesn't make sense there. The lawyer will cost more than the fine so just pay the fine. It you live somewhere that could give you a misdemeanor or felony for it then I would not be cutting it that close. Just be cautious and carry something that is clearly under the limit. It ain't worth it. Cops don't carry precision instruments for measuring blades. Don't leave it up to a guy with a tape measure or a ruler to measure to within 1/20 of an inch.
I wouldn't bet against that. People do strange things and laws don't figure into what people know they know. I had a young woman try to tell me I can't mail a pocket knife through usps last week. I asked her to check the regs on that because I have been doing it for 40 ish years. She went in to the back room where she thought I couldn't see her and stood there fixing her hair for maybe 45 seconds. She then came back and told me she had checked and it was ok.Truth be told, a lot of cops probably still use the 4 fingers = 3" method.
this might not be far fetched and not too far off. it won't be a full time thing but something set by the owner, like a scroll thru the computer and be password set.Evil D wrote: Maybe they should start making cars that will only go as fast as the speed limit, then nobody ever gets a speeding ticket?
Every thing I have ever read has said from the tip of the blade to the closest part of the handle to the tip. I have not seen any law or heard of any measurement being taken based on the amount of sharpened edge.JohnAPA wrote:I wonder how a court would measure a blade?
Tip to back?
Tip to back of pivot?
Tip to center of pivot?
Tip to front of pivot?
Tip to handle?
Sharpened edge on a straight line?
Sharpened edge including curvature?
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
I grew up on the north shore and am pretty familiar with the knife laws in your area. Interestingly, in an area with such strict laws, often a 2.5 inch limit, there are is no limit if involved in a sporting activity. Colorado is the same way and I believe many states make exceptions for that as well. As a kid nothing mattered to me more than fishing and I practically lived on the various piers and breakwaters between Boston and Gloucester. I would ride my bike all over the place with fishing poles sticking out of a backpack and either a Buck110, a Sharpfinger or some other fixed blade on my hip. All perfectly legal and nobody ever said a word.greencobra wrote: back on topic, my area has some strange laws governing knives. it starts with it's legal to own almost anything, it's carrying that trips you up. but knives stated as dangerous weapons cannot be sold in state yet it's legal to purchase out of state and transport back to your home. then there's transport and carry laws of these "dangerous weapons." they can't be carried under your control on your person but need to be transported in a lock box or locked in the trunk.
i've yet to know of anyone stopped and questioned for carrying a knife no matter what size it is. the fun begins when you get involved in other things where you may be arrested and then they just tack on weapons charges for your knives being carried. myself, a quick anecdote here, i only have reason to go into the local police station when my ltc needs to be renewed. there's a no weapon policy when going in there. i've gone in with a giant buck knife in a belt sheath and 2 or 3 pocket clips showing out of various pants pockets and no one raises an eye brow.
it's hard to find rhyme or reason for enforcement but frankly, if you're not a menacing individual known to police you're good to go it seems. but leave the state say to nyc...beware.
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
lol, yeah...a standard joke around these parts.bearfacedkiller wrote:Maybe if you carry around a few fish hooks and a spool of fishing line you can just say you were on your way to go fishing? :D :p
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
I honestly think these laws are used as a way of getting people off the street if they can't prove the real crime. How often are parolees sent back on "weapons charge"? Seems like Al Capone law. If you can't prove the hard stuff, pile on the little stuff like carrying a knife that is 1/4" tooEvil D wrote:I keep seeing this thread, and every time I read the title, it makes me think of how "gun control" laws work. In other words, they don't. It's the same with knife laws. Making something legal won't prevent laws from being broke or prevent people from getting in trouble, and making a knife "technically legal" won't keep you out of trouble when you break the law with a knife. Maybe they should start making cars that will only go as fast as the speed limit, then nobody ever gets a speeding ticket?
