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CPM-110V versus CTS-20CP ...

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:spyder: HELLO FELLOW FORUMITES :) ... I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY THEESE TWO ALLOYS PERFORMS (COMPARE TO EACH OTHER), THINGS LIKE CUTTING ABILITIES, EASE OF SHARPEN-REGRIND, LONG LASTING SHAVING SHARP-WORKING EDGE SHARP AND EVERYTHING ELSE SOMEBODY WITH SOME EXPERIENCE IN BOTH ALLOYS CAN EDUCATE US ALL ... I ALREADY OWN AND USE AS EDC MY PARA2 CTS20CP SHARPEN AT 13deg PER SIDE USING MY EDGE-PRO(PRO), BUT DUE TO "CAPITAL CONTROLS" :mad: THAT EXISTS IN MY COUNTRY I CAN NOT PURCHASE NEW SPIDIES :( , FOR NOW, SO I CAN NOT DO THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO ALLOYS BY MY OWN ... ANY HELP APPRECIATED ... :spyder:
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Well, 20CP is more or less the same thing as S90V, so you can go and research any comparison between S90V and S110V and the differences should be pretty much on par. Personally in my uses I can't tell the difference between 20CP and S90V, and as far as S90V/20Cp vs S110V goes they're all so outstanding that I don't think the average person is going to tell the difference in real world use, and those who say they do are likely feeling some placebo effect. The only difference between any of these that I've encountered is 20CP seemed to chip easier than S90/110V, but it has been several years since I used 20CP and that could always have something to do with how I had that knife sharpened vs. how I sharpen today.
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Welcome STAK, and yassou my Greek friend. I'm sorry for how difficult it is for you to acquire spydies, those of us in the USA have it easy for sure. I have 1 knife each in S90V and S110V, and I find them both harder to sharpen than S30V, but I can't really tell the difference between them.
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Evil D wrote:Well, 20CP is more or less the same thing as S90V, so you can go and research any comparison between S90V and S110V and the differences should be pretty much on par. Personally in my uses I can't tell the difference between 20CP and S90V, and as far as S90V/20Cp vs S110V goes they're all so outstanding that I don't think the average person is going to tell the difference in real world use, and those who say they do are likely feeling some placebo effect. The only difference between any of these that I've encountered is 20CP seemed to chip easier than S90/110V, but it has been several years since I used 20CP and that could always have something to do with how I had that knife sharpened vs. how I sharpen today.
:spyder: I have no chipping issues with my para2 20cp due to free-hand micro bevel that i always put after regrinding ... I am not so sure that S90V and 20CP are alike ... S90V is more agressive cutter, 20CP is an all-around steel as it can be sharper longer than S90V ... OK, they are very similar in maintaining a long cutting life without the need of constantly resharpening, but the cutting-feeling is very different between them ... what about S110V feeling and ease of sharpen, and maintaining a long shave sharping edge? ... :spyder:
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tvenuto wrote:Welcome STAK, and yassou my Greek friend. I'm sorry for how difficult it is for you to acquire spydies, those of us in the USA have it easy for sure. I have 1 knife each in S90V and S110V, and I find them both harder to sharpen than S30V, but I can't really tell the difference between them.
:spyder: Γειά σου και εσένα tvenuto, my fellow forumite ... Definately S90V is harder to sharpen than S30V, i use both para2s along with my 20CP, but usualy the S90V-20CP lasts twice and more than S30V as my cutting EDC tool ... I wish I could have one (or two) para2s in S110V ... I own almost all para2 sprintruns except ELMAX, M4 and 204P, so I know them alloys quite well ... I also know that maybe I ask too much but I like to hear how S110V cuts ... :spyder:
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STAK wrote:
Evil D wrote:Well, 20CP is more or less the same thing as S90V, so you can go and research any comparison between S90V and S110V and the differences should be pretty much on par. Personally in my uses I can't tell the difference between 20CP and S90V, and as far as S90V/20Cp vs S110V goes they're all so outstanding that I don't think the average person is going to tell the difference in real world use, and those who say they do are likely feeling some placebo effect. The only difference between any of these that I've encountered is 20CP seemed to chip easier than S90/110V, but it has been several years since I used 20CP and that could always have something to do with how I had that knife sharpened vs. how I sharpen today.
:spyder: I have no chipping issues with my para2 20cp due to free-hand micro bevel that i always put after regrinding ... I am not so sure that S90V and 20CP are alike ... S90V is more agressive cutter, 20CP is an all-around steel as it can be sharper longer than S90V ... OK, they are very similar in maintaining a long cutting life without the need of constantly resharpening, but the cutting-feeling is very different between them ... what about S110V feeling and ease of sharpen, and maintaining a long shave sharping edge? ... :spyder:
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:spyder: Nice chart ... Thank you for reminding me my smartphone app ... I want to know not only the statistics or the composition of the alloys, but the real user stuff, as I described at first in this post, the feeling of the steel ... Is S110V the evolution of S30V or another one high endurance working edged alloy? ... M390 like or 20CP like alloy? ... :spyder:
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tvenuto wrote:Welcome STAK, and yassou my Greek friend. I'm sorry for how difficult it is for you to acquire spydies, those of us in the USA have it easy for sure. I have 1 knife each in S90V and S110V, and I find them both harder to sharpen than S30V, but I can't really tell the difference between them.
:spyder: I forgot earlier to inform you my fellow forumite that the name of my country is HELLAS and not GREECE, so I am HELLIN and not GREEK ... :spyder:
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STAK wrote:
tvenuto wrote:Welcome STAK, and yassou my Greek friend. I'm sorry for how difficult it is for you to acquire spydies, those of us in the USA have it easy for sure. I have 1 knife each in S90V and S110V, and I find them both harder to sharpen than S30V, but I can't really tell the difference between them.
:spyder: I forgot earlier to inform you my fellow forumite that the name of my country is HELLAS and not GREECE, so I am HELLIN and not GREEK ... :spyder:
No offense taken, I hope. Thanks for correcting me.
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tvenuto wrote:
STAK wrote:
tvenuto wrote:Welcome STAK, and yassou my Greek friend. I'm sorry for how difficult it is for you to acquire spydies, those of us in the USA have it easy for sure. I have 1 knife each in S90V and S110V, and I find them both harder to sharpen than S30V, but I can't really tell the difference between them.
:spyder: I forgot earlier to inform you my fellow forumite that the name of my country is HELLAS and not GREECE, so I am HELLIN and not GREEK ... :spyder:
No offense taken, I hope. Thanks for correcting me.
:spyder: No,no I just wanted to inform you, nothing else :) ... :spyder:
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Yasou ti kanis and welcome to the forum.
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Able Dog wrote:Yasou ti kanis and welcome to the forum.
:spyder: Γειά σου Able Dog είμαι καλά, εσύ? ... I was absent for a long time, glad to be back ... Any thoughts about the alloys? ... :spyder:
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