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Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby awa54 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:10 pm

Has anyone purchased a standard G10 Manix since the release of the blurple S110V version? I'm wondering if all G10 Manix are going to have skeletonized liners going forward, or if the "basic" will keep the solid liners (and the extra ounce of weight).
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Donut » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:14 pm

I don't think so, the idea of the production Manix 2 is to keep the cost as low as possible (within reason). Lightening the liners will add some cost.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby awa54 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:31 pm

Donut wrote:I don't think so, the idea of the production Manix 2 is to keep the cost as low as possible (within reason). Lightening the liners will add some cost.
I'd think that the economy of having a single part to stock for all models might outweigh the slight savings of running the laser cutter and parts tumbler a a little shorter time for the solid liners. It may be a little sweetener to make the more costly models more attractive as well?
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Donut » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:11 pm

I don't know how much it would impact the price. It would be interesting to see skeletonized as an option.

This is an extreme example, but I do know that the Chaparral 3 has a $500+ MSRP because of the extra "machine time" it takes to cut the scales.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Evil D » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:35 pm

If they offered it with skeletonized scales at the same price I would me very impressed. Seems like I recall reading that they already sell this knife for a very small profit, so additional cost to the manufacturing process will only make that worse. Then again, if the S110V version is indeed standard production, it may well be a rolling change.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby RichWentFishing504 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:48 pm

Whenever they do this I'm gonna get a few more. Definitely worth the weight savings.

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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby TN.Frank » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:02 pm

I just got one of the Manix 2 G-10 versions with S30V steel a few days ago on our 3point5 program and it still has the solid liners. I think only the Sprint Runs will have the skeletonized liners for now but who knows, if enough of us say something maybe Spyderco will give all the Manix 2's skeletonized liners.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby abbazaba » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:05 pm

I find the difference in balance very noticeable and only buy skeletonized ones because of it. If they start using the same scales as the S110v I would be impressed. Given the price that the XL used to go for before MAP I think this would be possible.

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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby DougC-3 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:54 am

The regular production Manix 2 was my first Spydie and at that time I really liked the heft and balance of the full liners, but now, after using many different models, I strongly prefer the skeletonized liners and would like even a little more lightening, but not quite as much as in the FRCP models. I like the lt-wt models, but not as much as the G-10's, which are probably my second favorite platform, after the XL.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Evil D » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:14 am

You guys can just be like me and skeletonize your own liners, if you have enough determination and self hatred to get it done lol.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby awa54 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:17 am

Evil D wrote:You guys can just be like me and skeletonize your own liners, if you have enough determination and self hatred to get it done lol.
Now if Spyderco skeletonizes liners the way you did it, I can see why it would be cost prohibitive to skeletonize the base model! ;)

I was thinking of just doing three large drill holes in my M2 liners to lighten them, but haven't gotten around to it...
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby dplafoll » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:36 am

Donut wrote:I don't know how much it would impact the price. It would be interesting to see skeletonized as an option.

This is an extreme example, but I do know that the Chaparral 3 has a $500+ MSRP because of the extra "machine time" it takes to cut the scales.
You're right about extra machine time, but that's not quite a comparable situation. That's some fine machining on the outer surface of the handle, and it's Titanium which is harder to machine than steel. These would be just steel liners with holes machined in them; that's going to be a good bit easier to machine than the Chaparral.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby EDC Honeybee » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:34 am

Evil D wrote:You guys can just be like me and skeletonize your own liners, if you have enough determination and self hatred to get it done lol.
I started into this project based on your post. I make some knives from scratch, and it was tough enough that I gave up on the skeletonizing. Even getting the first hole to drill, dulled a new bit and required repeated application of cutting oil (though my press is less than ideal for steel, too weak and too fast). Might be my technique, but I broke 3 carbide side-cutting metal bits trying to widen the first hole. Good reminder of why to wear goggles in the shop.

It sure gave me an appreciation for the toughness of these liners. Im convinced they would be the last point of failure on the knife.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Evil D » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:18 pm

awa54 wrote:
Evil D wrote:You guys can just be like me and skeletonize your own liners, if you have enough determination and self hatred to get it done lol.
Now if Spyderco skeletonizes liners the way you did it, I can see why it would be cost prohibitive to skeletonize the base model! ;)

I was thinking of just doing three large drill holes in my M2 liners to lighten them, but haven't gotten around to it...

If you have access to a drill press I would give it a shot, but using a hand drill may be hazardous to your health lol.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby v8r » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:30 pm

It makes more sense to me to be able to use the same liners all across the board instead of inventorying two separate parts.

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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Evil D » Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:55 pm

I hate to rain on everyone's parade but haven't you guys noticed the difference in MSRP between the S110V and standard Manix 2's?

Standard - $164.95

S110V - $228.95

Could be the difference in steel cost, could also be the additional cost of machining the scales. I like the argument about it making sense to only have one part in stock, but mostly because it makes me feel better about wanting them to all be skeletonized. This wouldn't be the first time a single model had many different parts available to it (steel type variants, DLC variants, SE/PE variants, scale color variants, all the various Sage's, Mantra 1/2, not to mention the slew of Kiwis and Kopas that had various parts...it's a big list). Could just be something they chose to do to make the S110V model more special. If not I would expect to see the standard Manix 2 increase in price unless that increase is solely due to the difference in cost between S30V and S110V, but it seems way too coincidental that the more expensive knife also has skeletonized liners.
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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Knivesinedc » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:30 pm

Ive handled and carried the S110v manix for a few days. Borrowed it from a friend. And I can honestly say I prefer the heft of the Full liners. Could be that im accustomed to it, or maybe its just my love of hefty folders. I do much prefer the cutting ability of the S110v though. Absolutely adored it and made me wanna swap my dlc blade for the s110 :D

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Re: Manix 2 G10 CQI?

Postby Evil D » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:33 pm

I prefer the weight balance of the solid liners but overall prefer the lighter weight of skeletonized liners. With solid liners the weight is shifted more into your hand which can make using the knife feel more nimble (think of how a scalpel is weighted more towards the handle than the blade) but this is something I don't think the casual user will even notice let alone care about. On my custom Manix it's really noticeable since the handle is even lighter than a factory skeletonized knife.

Oddly enough I'm thankful this knife had solid liners or else I wouldn't have been able to make my Manix the way I wanted it. If the Para 2 had solid liners and I could do similar mods to the handle I may actually prefer the Para over the Manix but factory skeletonized liners make it more difficult to do what I did.
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