Heat Treatment - Crystal Weaving Foundation

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BluntCut MetalWorks heat treated steels attributes (referenced context below) are based on my Crystal Weaving Foundation(CWF). CFW has graduated into a small contribution to science. It will open a door to go outside of the current industry ht box/room - a broad area and depth to be explored by all of you.

Science Freedom - details of CFW 'how' & 'why' are to be widely presented and it should be easily replicated & applied. Applicability will stretch across the entire steel industry, where cutlery/edge-tool is a small sector in it. 'How' will be a general ht formula, and 'why' if you would like to understand chemistry & physics aspects/science of it.

This post (across multiple forums) declared my intention. I haven't shoot the 'how' video nor write up yet, so welcome to suggest better format etc..

Best regards,
==Luong

*** Hardness/strength 2+rc exceeded mfg's max rc is just an easy quantifier - other attributes are also important ***

BCMW 20160702 ht results

CPM-M4 69rc - https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/zdata- ... elC-M4.htm
Elmax 65rc - https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/Pictur ... ypical.gif
S110V 65.5rc - https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/Pictur ... 10V-DS.pdf
CTS-XHP 67.5rc - https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/zdata- ... CTSXHP.htm
CPM 10V 69.5rc - https://www.alphaknifesupply.com/zdata- ... lC-A11.htm

29 minutes video - sorry, 2nd is fuzzy due to over heated camera
Whittled: oak, bamboo, lignum vitae argentine (LVA) and thin metal tube (at end of fuzzy video)
Chopped: oak, LVA

https://youtu.be/b21Rg8D97Ig

Edges after whittled thin metal tube (in video)


BCMW 20160615 66+rc W2 chop test at cryogenic(LN2) temperature - ** as stated - it's more than just hardness/strength ***
https://youtu.be/5-mVEp7BiLo

[Kenakth]

I'm an engineering student in the middle of working towards my degree, and have an interest in materials and physics. That said, my knowledge of this type of thing isn't as in-depth as I want at the moment. This looks like it could be interesting, but may I ask why you decided to test the edge stability of the different steels at different RC hardnesses? I apologize if this is covered in the video, I am not in a position where I can sit down to watch it just yet.

Thanks for your time.

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Each of those steel is 2+rc higher than steel mfg max published hrc. Also those blades are effectively untempered. i.e. hardness & toughness are not mutual exclusive of each other. I didn't invent new physics - just that today metallurgy could benefit from a tiny upgrade :D

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*MOD* feel free to move or delete this thread if deem inappropriate or violate forum's rules. **

While waiting for declaration period to expires.

If you have time to burn, you might enjoy this 11 minutes video entertainment

BCMW 20160706 cut old ironing board with 8670 steel blade at 64rc

Using Crystal Weaving Foundation ht to hardened this blade.

8670 Steel, 64rc, 0.10" thick
~0.015" behind edge thick
~30* inclusive sharpening bevel (15dps)

For these kind of abusive testing, please keep in mind 40* inclusive angle is about 2.3 times stronger by steel volume of 30*. This blade sharpened at 30* which is a very thin angle for this type of usage/abuse. Also its behind edge thickness (shoulder of sharpening bevel) is only ~0.015. This edge geometry is commonly used by pocket knives.

https://youtu.be/CR3iq7LIxwU

[anagarika]

I think you meant CWF rather than CFW.

With this upgrade, all Spydies can only be better! :cool:

[SpyderEdgeForever]

To the original poster: When you say crystal weaving, do you literally mean the ability to take individual metal crystals and pattern them under control, as opposed to "bulk batch chemistry" and metallurgy? That is one of the goals of advanced molecular nanotechnology. Once you are able to do that, you could make all sorts of super-exotic materials, alloys, and compounds, cheaply. Think along the lines of taking ceramic and metal crystals and weaving and bonding them together, and making polymer ceramic composites that are layered from the atomic level on up. You get the toughness and the hardness both.

[anagarika]

No idea if it's applicable to H1, it's going to be super adamantium. No rust & never dull! (Well, abraded so slowly it feels nothing)

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Wow man let's get Cliff Stamp on this :) He'll love this.

[tvenuto]

Wow man let's get Cliff Stamp on this :) He'll love this.

I'm sure this is posted on his forum, you could go over and check it out.

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Much more activities taken place here - http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... Foundation

SpyderEdgeForever - my CWF (well conceptual since I didn't nanograph the matrix) projected to manipulate at weaving martensite cell unit. Ideally, we want cell length (# of crystal) be minimal. Granularity of regulate driving force probably be larger than ideal but good enough proof of concept for me.

Sure - this whole declaration-of-intention sounds like a joke but sometime good to wait for hindsight to catch-up.

[SpyderEdgeForever]

This is another reason why forums like this are so excellent, so we can learn new steel and metallurgy and materials science methods relevant to knives and cutting tools. Thank you.

While we're on this sort of a topic, could you error check or give me your viewpoint on something related to materials for knives?

Over the years I have read claims in science fiction and science speculation, that say it would be useful to somehow combine metal crystals with polymer fibers or long chain molecules, at the molecular level, to have the best of both worlds: Hardness and Strength of steel with the elasticity and rust resistance of polymers/plastics. The idea would be something that would combine the edge power of (say) VG10 steel with the elasticity and rust resistance of FRN/Fiberglass Reinforced Nylon. Is that doable even with advanced nanotechnology or would you go some other route?

Another example: I read a paper that discussed "Highly Cross Linked Polymers" for structural uses. The claim was that if you could (using nanomachines through mechanical bonding of the molecular chains or some other means) bond the individual molecular links together in the polymer, instead of a floppy plastic you would get a material that combined the stiffness and strength more like diamond or ceramic, but, with the toughness and fracture-resistance of other plastics. What are your thoughts on that?

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SpyderEdgeForever

1. I walked out to the end of a science tree limb
2. falled with face down to a cow pie
3. mutter:

Are there weak links of this chain and how these supposedly constructed unit of perfect building blocks (like lego) connected to one to the other. And then connected to large enough to be useful. Wasn't nanotube/graphene a big tiny thing ... nah, give me some grants to test fast cars would be better way to spend money.

When you can manipulate bond - no reason to waste strength on hybrid bond with crystal (VC, WC, Mart, etc..). What would be the large possible atomic (as a smallest single unit not an atom speaking) cross linked polymers which big enough. It need directional to be stiff - aha a twisted IBeam like :D Wait a minute - this is just a subset of bond manipulation.

4. After got zapped by a de-baryonic phaser

A more far out thought would be - interlocking electron cloud. Wow 1/10 the way to nuclear force. You can harvest plenty of these in cold fusion