Made in U.S. with S30V & G-10
- Military: $155.97
- Native5 (S35VN): $131.97
- Para-Military2: $122.97
- Manix2 XL: $122.97
- Yojimbo2: $122.97
- Manix2: $98.97
- Starmate: $199.99
- Tatanka: $191.97
- Battlestation: $191.97
- Roc: $155.97
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
Isn't 440V just another name for S60V?JD Spydo wrote:I may be the wrong person to ask that question but I've truly got mixed feelings about the two categories you presented us with. First of all I want it to be known right up front that I like VG-10 for hard use and EDC uses a lot better than I do S30V. And it poses a difficult dichotomy for me because I do tend to have much more of a sentimental liking for the USA made Spyders. And right now my favorite EDC that I've been carrying is my M390 Military model which is a Sprint Run, Golden CO USA Earth model.
But with the not so good results I've had with S30V compared with the consistent, durable, dependable results I've had with VG-10 I much prefer it for daily uses over S30V. I've just had much better edge retention and corrosion resistance with VG-10>>And this is coming from a guy who likes some of Crucible's blade steels a lot ( the makers of S30V). I love S90V, 440V and their version of D-2 along with some of their other blade steels but S30V just doesn't impress me hardly at all.
Again I have a lot of mixed feelings about this comparison because there are many of the GOLDEN, CO USA Earth models I dearly love. But concerning VG-10 blade steel the owners of Spyderco must feel a lot the way I feel because it's been their mainline steel for the Japan made Spyders for quite a few years now and I haven't heard of any plans on changing over to any other blade steel in that line anytime soon>> so that should speak volumes.
Now when it comes to the Golden USA made Spyderco Sprint Runs>> that's another story all together. Because there are a lot of those I like really well that they've used Crucible's blade steels on.
Yes.Mikael Andersson wrote:Isn't 440V just another name for S60V?JD Spydo wrote:I may be the wrong person to ask that question but I've truly got mixed feelings about the two categories you presented us with. First of all I want it to be known right up front that I like VG-10 for hard use and EDC uses a lot better than I do S30V. And it poses a difficult dichotomy for me because I do tend to have much more of a sentimental liking for the USA made Spyders. And right now my favorite EDC that I've been carrying is my M390 Military model which is a Sprint Run, Golden CO USA Earth model.
But with the not so good results I've had with S30V compared with the consistent, durable, dependable results I've had with VG-10 I much prefer it for daily uses over S30V. I've just had much better edge retention and corrosion resistance with VG-10>>And this is coming from a guy who likes some of Crucible's blade steels a lot ( the makers of S30V). I love S90V, 440V and their version of D-2 along with some of their other blade steels but S30V just doesn't impress me hardly at all.
Again I have a lot of mixed feelings about this comparison because there are many of the GOLDEN, CO USA Earth models I dearly love. But concerning VG-10 blade steel the owners of Spyderco must feel a lot the way I feel because it's been their mainline steel for the Japan made Spyders for quite a few years now and I haven't heard of any plans on changing over to any other blade steel in that line anytime soon>> so that should speak volumes.
Now when it comes to the Golden USA made Spyderco Sprint Runs>> that's another story all together. Because there are a lot of those I like really well that they've used Crucible's blade steels on.
As you noted, Michael Janich works for Spyderco. Not sure whether he gets a percentage or not.RamZar wrote:The U.S.-made Yojimbo2 is a collaboration with Michael Janich although he has a working capacity at Spyderco.
The prices on the Japanese-made collaborations are on par with the higher quality and more expensive handle materials of Taichung collaborations like Techno and Positron.
There are other Japanese-made VG-10/G-10 that I think are overpriced:
Civilian: $173.97
Police: $149.97
I suppose that's one way of looking at it.RamZar wrote:Based on the high price, casual consumers have wondered if these Japanese-made VG-10/G-10 are that much better than the U.S.-made S30V/G-10 ones and I tell them that the quality of the U.S.-made ones are actually better with better materials plus you save a lot of money. I do tell them about high labor costs in Japan and the exchange rate but most are astonished by the big price differential.
I only recommend Japanese-made Spydercos with H-1 to them since it fills a nice niche. Mainly I steer them to either Golden or Taichung models. Taichung has lots of quality folders between $117.57 and 179.97 which incidentally have more expensive materials.
Exactly.The Deacon wrote: Let's face it, in terms of fit and finish, there are a lot fewer places to screw up when building a framelock with standoffs than a pinned construction bolster and scales midlock.
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?
It doesn't compute with me either. Stretch ZDP FRN has a MAP (40% off MSRP) of $120 whereas the Stretch ZDP G-10 has a MAP of $210. That's a 75% increase! Last year I got one of the Stretch ZDP G-10 for $175 (50% off MSRP) and I think even that's a stretch (pun intended)! :)bearfacedkiller wrote:The BRG FRN Stretch in ZDP costs a quite a bit less than the Stretch2 with G10 and ZDP. I realize some of the factors influencing this but the price difference is still quite substantial. One has a $200 msrp and one has a $350 msrp. I struggle with understanding that one.