Renaming lock-strength listings

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Renaming lock-strength listings

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I enjoy seeing the MBC-rating on the locks of some of my favorite <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> (either own or desparately want), but I don't use knives for martial bladecraft.



Could there please be a more sheeple-friendly way to rate folders whose locks withstand 200+ inch pounds per inch of blade length?



That'd be really nice. Maybe "Uber Use"? "Cretin resistant"? "Sequoia compatible"?



edited to add examples



Edited by - thombrogan on 6/2/2004 7:51:14 AM
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Or different classes A, B, C and D, with A being the strongest (MBC-rated)?

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Excellent idea, Shiden-Kaj!
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uber use.....that's awesome.


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"uber use" -- LOL!

Sounds like a good suggestion to me. I would like to see a combination of Shiden-Kaj's and Thom's ideas, i.e. maybe an addition to the next catalog (and web site) that has a very cleanly designed and clearly indicated color-coded legend showing the different lock categories.

I like the idea of using clever, sheeple-friendly denotations like Thom suggested, as I think humor and wit are some of the best marketing tools around. Combine this with clearly defined, no-nonsense classes as in Shiden's example, and I think you've got a nice, classy, useful improvement to the ever-improving product catalog.

Kind of similar in a way to Benchmade's color-coded classes which seem to work well for them. I like this approach by Benchmade, but my one criticism of it is that their class definitions are a bit vague. For instance, see these class descriptions from one of my recent Benchmade manuals:

<i>RED CLASS
"A Knife For Every Pocket"
These knives offer the same reputable Benchmade signature innovation, and performance driven mindset - geared for the casual knife buyer.</i>

<i>BLUE CLASS
"A Knife For The Real Knife Person"
Knives for the individual who appreciates more in a knife. The heart of everything Benchmade through exclusive innovation and quality of materials.</i>

This is a good start and has some value in dividing up the Benchmade product line, but it still leaves me with too many questions, whether I'm a "knife knut" (or as my friends would say, "knife knerd" <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> ) or a completely clueless newbie browsing a catalog for the first time:

"What are these innovations?"

"What is the difference between a knife for the 'casual buyer' and one for a 'knife person'?" -- obviously, price, but what am I paying for?

etc..

Spyderco could improve on this Benchmade approach by backing up the classes with actual test numbers and specific defining, common features of the knives in each class. Spyderco knives have enough "synergy" or "themes" to them that I wouldn't think it would be too hard to divide them up into classes based on features.

Sal seems to be big on "tech info" anyway, and good technical data which backs up Spyderco's claims is one of the aspects that drew me to the company in the first place. They don't just tell me their knives are better than the competition and expect me to believe it -- they actually prove it to me. Gotta respect that.

That's my $.02...

edited to clean up misbehaving smiley

Edited by - timlara on 6/2/2004 9:46:47 AM
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That'd be a neat fusion, Tim Lara!

<i>SAS - A </i>
Save and Serve folder with lock strength of 250+ inch pounds per inch of blade length. Recommended for cutting chain that has tethered giant squid to sinking cruise ship

<i>SAS-B </i>
Save and Serve blade with lock strength of 200+ inch pounds per inch of blade length. Recommended for cutting situations for saving humans and most zoo animals

<i>SAS-C </i>
Save and Serve blade with lock strength of 100+ inch pounds per inch of blade length. Recommended for saving cats in trees or freeing seagulls from fishing line. Free spool of practice fishing line included.

<i>SAS-D </i>
25 inch pounds per inch of blade length. Choice for freeing crickets from rattan cages.

<i>UU-A </i>
Uber User blade with 250+ inch pounds per inch of blade length. Recommended for people who forget to bring auger to drill site and must cut out more than 2000 tons of granite.

<i>UU-B </i>
Uber User blade with 200+ inch pounds of lock strength per inch of blade. Recommended for rough shaping of dugout canoes.
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LOL !!!!
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:-)
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ROFLMAO, Thom!!! You da man!!! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>


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I'd like some hard data on lock-strength as well.

Q?

Where can I find out more about these MBC ratings, and which Spydercos have them?

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Thombrogan: "Recommended for people who forget to bring auger to drill site and must cut out more than 2000 tons of granite."


LMAO!
That's a really good idea, Thombrogan!

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Death: Take a look at the "let's talk about locks" thread on the tekno forum
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So Sal,

Would this idea be alright?
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Thanks, HoB.

But now I need a definitive "list" of all Spyderco folders, current and discontinued, that have an MBC-rated lock.

...is there anywhere I can go to get this data?

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I don't believe there are any discontinued MBC rated knives. Of the top of my hat:
Lil'T
ATR
Dodo
Chinook
Gunting
(Spyderfly)...well I guess that would count
(Yojimbo)...not yet out
and that's it, I believe. Anybody, please correct me.
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There's also the Ayoob and, occasionally, the stainless Cricket. Ayoob model went b'bye before I experienced the joys of ClipIts. <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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Thanks again, guys...

So, how is the ss Cricket an "occasional"?

And what about the Karambit? Similar lock to the ss Cricket, and likely "intended" as a sd knife.

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Wonder about the Karambit myself, haven't been able to find a lock strength listing.
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