Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

[farnorthdan]

Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.

[demoncase]

The ATR will be mine...to sit next to the blacked-out VG10 one in the collection

And I forsee all kindsa custom scales in the future of this model.....A nice anodized aluminium perhaps.

[DougC-3]

Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?

New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:

From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:

Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]

I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.

[Igi964]

Still waiting for something new. Something that we haven't seen before. Don't get me wrong return of the ATR is huge, but we know about it since Shot Show.
Amsterdam meet is so exciting for me, because of realising new, unseen designs and secret prototypes. This year Eric bring a lot of it. I know Mr. Blonde put it in alphabetical order, so Caribbean should be next:)

[The Deacon]

Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.

Just a guess, but perhaps because space constraints required a flat head screw and Phillips works better with that style head than Torx or Allen because the drive slot is V shaped. Either that, or the blade in that prototype could just be a leftover from the earlier SS version.

[elena86]

Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?

New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:

From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:

Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]

I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.

" original straight-backed blade shape " ? This confuses me.Does it mean it has no thumb ramp or what ?

[FCM415]

Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.

What makes torx better (besides familiarity)?

[demoncase]

Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?

New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:

From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:

Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]

I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.

" original straight-backed blade shape " ? This confuses me.Does it mean it has no thumb ramp or what ?

The current run of Delicas and Enduras drop the spine about 1/2" from the point.
The original ones I fell in love with are a straight spine from the thumb ramp all the way to the point:

[sal]

Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?

Hi SEF,

I will be commenting on the prototype pictures that Wouter posts. Concept models won't be discussed much.

sal

[farnorthdan]

Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.

What makes torx better (besides familiarity)?

Purely cosmetic friend, I just think it would look better...YMMV

[demoncase]

Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.

What makes torx better (besides familiarity)?

Purely cosmetic friend, I just think it would look better...YMMV

Mais non, monsieur- there is indeed an advantage to Torx over Phillips in some applications:

By design, Torx head screws resist cam-out better than Phillips head or slot head screws.[1] Where Phillips heads were designed to cause the driver to cam out, to prevent overtightening, Torx heads were designed to prevent cam-out. ...... Rather than rely on the tool to slip out of the screw head when a torque level is reached, which risks damage to the driver tip, screw head, and/or workpiece, torque-limiting driver designs achieve a desired torque consistently

From the Wikipedia article on the same....

But let's not drift any further from the subject of Wouter's fantastic pictures!

[Evil D]

Torx have more surface area engaging the driver...this means more torque can be applied without stripping the screw. Hence the name "torx".

[FCM415]

Cool, thanks. Especially useful in smaller applications.

Looks like cobra hood screw isn't so small, so Phillips isnt an issue in regards to function.

Edit wait it is small. ehh whatever Im ok either way.

[Surfingringo]

Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?

New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:

From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:

Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]

I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.

" original straight-backed blade shape " ? This confuses me.Does it mean it has no thumb ramp or what ?

The current run of Delicas and Enduras drop the spine about 1/2" from the point.
The original ones I fell in love with are a straight spine from the thumb ramp all the way to the point:

In other words, Marius, no regrind required!! :cool: :D

[Larry_Mott]

Thank you for the great pics! However i am confused re. the titanium handled Cara cara being a prototype? I had one, it had an uneven blade grind though, so i passed it on.

[Mr Blonde]

**eyes closed** mumbling:

please let the D'Allara be on the picture list, please, please, please

Come on Wouter, don't break my heart. :)

Sorry mate, the D'Allara was shown, but it's not on the list of knives I can share. That means it's likely a bit too far from actual release, compared to the prototypes I can show.

[Mr Blonde]

The Dragonfly HAP 40 is part of a sprint run of lightweight folders with HAP 40 steel. I’m looking forward to try out this steel. I’m not much of a steel-junkie, but I had great fun with the super blue steel that came out last year. So why not try this HAP 40, right? The lightweight Dragonfly looks nice with a burnt orange colored handle. It is a much more subdued shade of orange than the bright orange on the regular production orange Dragonfly.























Specifications
Overall Length: 14,2 cm / 5.59 inches
Blade Length: 5,8 cm / 2.28 inches
Blade Thickness: 2,5 mm / 0.09 inches
Weight: 37 grams / 1.30 ounces

[swigert]

Great pics of the DF2. These HAP40 blades are really great.

[Mr Blonde]

I am a Lum Chinese Folder addict, so the new Lil’ Lum will definitely go on my wish list. It is a very small folder, but even with its right-handed clip (I’m a lefty) I could easily manipulate it. The Lil’ Lum does have a much curvier edge than its medium- and large-sized brethren in the Spyderco line-up. I do think the black G-10 is a bit too basic for an elegant folder like this. I hope this one does well for Spyderco, hopefully well enough to warrant a run in a more interesting handle color.



























Specifications
Overall Length: 13,6 cm / 2.98 inches
Blade Length: 6 cm / 2.38 inches
Blade Thickness: 2 mm / 0.08 inches
Weight: 51 grams / 1.8 ounces

[Bolster]

Cute! But...no concern of the index finger sliding forward onto the blade with the Lil' Lum?

If you shorten the word "cute" by one letter at the end, what do you get?