Bought my first Spyder last year: total waste of money!!

JediKnight86 · #21

Get an S30V Military and you won't be disappointed!

Jimmy_Dean · #22

From what I understand reading posts on this forum is that the Military is an excellent knife. I think it may very well be true. I went out to look for a cricket today and boy, was I mistaken about Spyderco. This little thing cuts like a devil. I love it. I'm looking for a tough 'jack of all trade' type of knife and I think the military could be the way to go. When I look at it on pictures, I find it doesn't have the "sex-appeal" a Police has ( to name just one) but since the mili has a liner lock...I don't know, I'll have to see. But I appreciate, thanks. I'll give it some thoughts. Is the handle comfortable?

-Dean

ElectricZombie · #23

The Military has a very comfortable handle. (I have 2 of them) In my opinion, the Military is the best knife Spyderco makes. The Chinook II is also a great knife if you had rather have another lockback.

All the lockbacks have a tiny amount of play; it's normal. Don't worry about the lock failing, because it is extremely strong.

Jimmy_Dean · #24

I'm sure the lock is very reliable. But to be honnest, I just can't get over this play (plus the anoying metal-to-metal clicking that comes with it) There are no folders I know that performs like a fixed-blade but it seems to me a good folder should feel like a fixed blade. A blade wiggeling when I work hard with the knife just hurts the feeling of strenghts the knife has. Of course, since I can't get it sharp, everything is hard work with a dull blade and I have every reason to hope things will be better when I get it back.

-Dean

#25

Hi Jimmy_Dean. Folders do in fact fold, so there are a number of parts involved in making them rigid when opened. There are also a variety of methods of putting the "broomstick into the spokes" to stop the folder from folding. All have merit, all have some down side, all are improving.

This is part of the ingtrigue of folding knives. Folders, in the long run, with heavy use, will need maintenance that your fixed blade probably won't.

We also make a variety of fixed blades, all with reliable high performance capability in their area of design.

Regarding my involvement, I've said this before, but I like to repeat it now and then.

Every industry has a business chain. It usually begins with research & development, the spark, if you will, then to raw materials, then to design to manufacturing to distribution to dealers to the End Line User.

To that we can hook on Marketing, we add advertising, writers, publications, accounting departments, shipping and receiving departments, Showrooms, trucks, planes, boats,……ALL because the End Line User is going to buy something.

The End Line User or what we call the ELU is the most important link of the business chain. If you remove the ELU from the business equation, the entire chain falls like a row of Dominos.

I consider it a priviledge and an opportunity to speak directly with our customers.

sal

delicrazy · #26

Hi, welcome to the forum! i felt a lot like you do when i got a delica, the enduras little brother. i was cutting something and i felt the blade move and i thought, my buck is half this price and the blade doesnt move at all. so i took them both outside to a tree, and smashed the back of the bucks blade as hard as i could into a tree, it folded. then i tried it with the delica, and to my amazement, it held. (if you decide to do this, wear gloves, i almost lost a finger) so trust in your endura, it wont fail

Sal, i just said pobodys nerfect today, small world. i got it from the simpsons.

danzomekahiro · #27

Hi Jimmy

Get yourself a Native, ideally the plain edge in S30V. It is one of the best knives ever made.

Danzo

Jimmy_Dean · #28

Hi Mr. Glesser,

As a customer, I also feel very fortunate and privileged that you should take time to read our comments. By that, I understand that you care about those who belive in you and it is certainly appreciated. I now own a SS cricket and enjoy it very much. I feel like I did a double-take on Spyderco, only it took me a full year to turn my head the second time <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>. My Endura is in the mail and I trust it will perform the way it was meant to do. I'll keep in mind that folders do fold and have issues fixed-blades don't have. It will be my pleasure to give you good feedbacks about your customer service very soon. Thanks for your time.

-Dean

J Smith · #29

Go with a Military.I have a 440V forum model and a S30V PE.It is IMHO the best production folder ever made.The only thing you will need to do is not to let it get to dull between sharpenings.The high end steel in the Military is a bear to sharpen if it gets really dull but is not bad at all to keep a sharp edge on.I ussally well not sharpen but refresh the edge on mine once every week or 2 altough it would go much longer without really needing it.

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Alan2112 · #30

Dang, I always wondered what ELU, stood for! It would have drove my crazy, if I wasn't already! RKBA!

Ted · #31

>Jimmy_Dean: There are no folders I know that performs like a fixed-blade but it...

You might want to try a <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Lil Temperance. That thing is soooo rock solid strong.

And, Chris Reeve Sebenza's are somethings called fixed blades that fold...

I'm pretty sure an ATR or Para-military are/will be in that range too.

Ted

HoB · #32

I think the Lil' Temperance is an often overlooked candidate. The first few times I was browsing for a knife, it never caught my eye. Actually I was a little offended by its price: expensive for a 3 in folder, but then I started to read between the lines. Nested liners, G-10 handle, 4mm blade CPM30V steel and MBC rated lock. Can't be that small I thought and ordered one from NGK. Still I was very surprised when it arrived: This is *not* a little knive. To me it is the best of all worlds: 3 in blade with the feel of a much larger folder. My Delica with the same blade length feels and looks tiny in comparison. I have come to believe the name is actually a word game, it is not only the little brother of the Temperance, but Mr. Glaesser seemed to have shown very little temperance when designing the knive. However, it takes a little getting used to. I found it a pretty unusual design. After being initially torn between the ugly looks and the awesome feel of the knife I have come to really love the knive in a very short amount of time.
Otherwise I agree with danzomekahiro the native II is an unbelievable deal.

Jimmy_Dean · #33

The Native II stikes me as being the right knife, with the right look at the right price. It caught my eye more than the military. And for a EDC, I always prefered a 3in. blade so it's in the 'maybe file'. It's still a front lock but I'll play with one at the store someday and I'll see if I like it. If you ask me, the knife I would want to carry by my side 24/7 would be the ATR but quite frankly it bugs me to think I'd have to pay 300$ to have a Spyderco that performs the way I want it, when all I want is a good strong folder to cut boxes at work and open my mail. Right now I have my Cricket and it does the job. But thanks for the comment, the day I buy a Native(or any other Spydie for that matter), you'll hear about me.

-Dean

P.S. About the Lil' Temperance: Bowie or spear point?

Edited by - Jimmy_Dean on 3/26/2004 11:17:47 PM

HoB · #34

I love playing the devil on your shoulder: The ATR is only $190 at NGK, but they are currently out of stock and $180 at spydercostore.com. Never dealt with them though.
Lil' Temp w/ Spear point. Don't like bowie style, too difficult to sharpen the strongly curved blade even on the sharpmaker, like to keep it simple. Otherwise I would have bought a Chinook a while ago.