Paramilitary refinement - Need input.

[sal]

I'll be running this question on Bladeforums Spyderco site as well

We've had number of requests to update (refine? evolve?) the Paramilitary model. So I guess it's time to try to get input from ELUs or potential ELUs on what will make the model "better".

Any area of the design is open for criticism or suggestion.

your input is appreciated.

1. I believe a 4way clip will be a necessary improvement.
2. We'll be doing somethng with the "sharp" corner at the back of the spine in the closed position.

what else?

sal

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[Vincent]

[quote="sal"]I'll be running this question on Bladeforums Spyderco site as well

We've had number of requests to update (refine? evolve?) the Paramilitary model. So I guess it's time to try to get input from ELUs or potential ELUs on what will make the model "better".

Any area of the design is open for criticism or suggestion.

your input is appreciated.

1. I believe a 4way clip will be a necessary improvement.
2. We'll be doing somethng with the "sharp" corner at the back of the spine in the closed position.

what else?



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well sal the thing is perfect as Is. I cant really think of all to much.
sal.


Il have to examine my Para and get back to this thread.

I think it would be time to refine the MIlitary, as Its years and years older.

[s11ews]

i would love it if the the pivot was ajustable with flat head screwdrivers as it would make it very simple to adjust the pivot

also i think a low riding clip would be really cool

sam :D

[Vincent]

i would love it if the the pivot was ajustable with flat head screwdrivers as it would make it very simple to adjust the pivot

well theres a reason the majority of knife companies choose to use Torx. Im not sure the flat head would really go over well. Thogh I am a fan of the one sided torx like on the Military.

[txtroublemaker]

Hi Sal,
Here's my dream Para:
Peel-Ply Carbon Fiber, BG-42 steel and either a polished or bead blasted clip.
The black coating comes off too easily.

[pjrocco]

4-way clip and different color G10. That's all. :)

[para-force]

I know it's been discussed that steel liners are overkill on a lot of knives, but I think the para would be nice with full metal liners.

[markg]

The only things I can think of would involve the clip...

1.) The "dimple" of the clip, curves out pretty aggressively and tends to want to scratch things like cars, ect.

2.) Some might like a more "low ride" clip than the present model.

Other than that it is perfect...

[Vincent]

Ted, Post that Pic of the OD Green Para that we were thinking of having for the 2005 forum knife,

I still think an OD green G-10 para would be the best looking spyderco ever.

[Bayoublaster]

I don't own a Para and have never had the pleasure of handling one so from just the spec sheet, all I can think of would be the previously mentioned 4 position clip option.

[yablanowitz]

Polished clip, preferably low (or at least lower) ride. Four position would be nice, although I prefer tip down anyway. And I may be the only person in the world who thinks this, but the lock seems left handed to me. Not that that is a BAD thing, but I would like to see the lock reversed or the clip on the other side. Apart from that minor nitpick, the knife is as close to perfect as it can be. I know the collectors are going to want exotic materials, and that is fine, but occurs to me that most collector knives might as well be made from aluminum for the amount of actual use they see. If you will keep the price point low enough that I don't have to rob a major bank to buy one, I'll be happy :D

[peacefuljeffrey]

My Para Military is a coveted piece. Once I put my own edge on it, I decided I was afraid to carry it for fear of loss (until I can afford a backup to keep), so it is still in its box. I tell you this because although I love the knife among my top three favorites, that's the reason I don't carry it.

Sal, although I myself would not be served by four-way clip points (the current way is fine for me as a right-hander), I think that everyone else, especially lefties, deserve to be able to enjoy the knife. (You might even consider even making left-handed Compression Locks! Lefties the world-over would love you for it!) So I would do this, I guess.

My only mod to my PM is that I ground a very small choil at the heel of the blade, because I really do not like when the bevel runs right into the tang. That presents aesthetic sharpening difficulties. In my view, there needs to be a space so that the sharpening stone goes right to the end of the sharpened edge. Some of your knives have it, and others don't. I believe it is a very good feature, and I would like to see it already present on your knives rather than me having to do them myself. I do it with a Dremel grinder and I do a utilitarian job of it, but it would look so much nicer if the factory did it.

Please make sure to not change the nature of the Compression Lock. I LOVE the milled-tang version, as I dislike and for some reason can't come to trust ball-bearing detents.

Overall, the Para Military is a spectacularly good knife, even just as it is.

-Jeffrey

[Ging]

~takes Para out of pocket and looks at it again~

I think all the changes that I would make have been suggested already - 4 way, lower riding clip and fuller steel liners.

I think the Para is amazing already so any changes will make it impossibly great :)

[gull wing]

Don't change it too much, but.
1.Better clip - Low rider. As you already said 4-way or tip up/tip down.
2.Different finish on blade - More polish or Stonewashed.(I know the chances of stonewashed are slim so I put it second in order)
3.Thumb rest jimping - same as in the UKPK.
4.Change color of handle.
5.I would say shorten the length of the handle, but that may be too much??

[gull wing]

Keep liners nested and SLIM, no full liners. That's why there are knives like Manix, 80MM, Chen.

[Spydieopath]

Sal,

I love the knife the way it is and the only thing that would improve it FOR ME is to make the handle smaller, while keeping the blade the same size.

The Para Military has the same size handle as my large Sebenza but the blade is a half inch shorter. The way it is now I don’t carry it as much as I’d could because it “looks” like a lot bigger knife than it is, and it is the handle that makes it look that way. So if I’m going to get the “look” for having a big knife, I may as well carry one with another half inch on the blade.

That said, it and the waved Delica are my favorite user Spydercos.

Thanks for all the wonderful choices you offer!

Best Regards

[The Deacon]

Sal, aside from switching the lock to the other side or making it it a front lock, there's nothing that would make me buy one, and believe me I don't expect that. But you make too many far more lefty friendly knives for a handed lock to be of any interest to me.

However, lopping 1/8" off the blade might increase the market. Lots of places with 3" blade length limits. The difference in "cutting power" between a 3 3/32" blade and a 2 31/32" one has got to be slight, if even noticable.

[Bodieism]

1. Change lock to ball bearing (I would like to see this happen over anything else).

2. 4 way clip would be nice.

3. Slighty shorter handle.

[uhiforgot]

1. I believe a 4way clip will be a necessary improvement.

Oh Bless you, goodsir! That alone would land a Paramilitary in my pocket without hesitation :D

-Jeff

[Vincent]

1. Change lock to ball bearing (I would like to see this happen over anything else).

2. 4 way clip would be nice.

3. Slighty shorter handle.

your crazy about the lock bro,