Conversation with ebay faker
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:38 pm
I saw this ebay add for a fake PM2 so I asked the seller a question. Here's the conversation so far:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paramilitary-Cu ... 1906642647
My messages in blue.
Is the item #121906642647 that you have listed an authentic Spyderco knife?
His responses in red.
do you see any Spyderco in description ? it is a custom knife that's what I have list it for all I can say is this knife is nice the blade holds up good and I have one my self for years. I came up with the coating after I went diving. did not like the rust inside from sea water blade was no problem but internal parts. I also coat gun parts so I did decide to start coating knifes I do it the same way just like with the gun parts and it takes me few hours to do one knife.Please keep in mind there is no papers no box no logos on this knife and I do not even like to call it Spyderco because they never made the knife in a style like this with a paint job like this or a logo like this.
I did not see Spyderco anywhere in your add and that is why I asked the question. You obviously know that this is an unauthorized Chinese copy of a Spyderco Paramilitary 2, yet you do not state anywhere that it is a clone or that it is made in China. It is not unreasonable to think that someone might think that they are getting a quality Spyderco when in fact they are not. You should at least give a complete and thorough description of this product unless you are purposely trying to mislead people. Thank you for your prompt response to my question.
sorry but I do not try to miss lead anybody there are no labels on this knife on top of this this knife is not a copy because it is not exactly the same it does not even say Paramilitary 2 in my description, People who buy this knife buy it mostly because of the coating.
I do not see any patent number on those knifes ... therefore they can copy as long as they like to as long they do not use there labels but like I mention it is not even a copy because it is different. Just because it has a hole in the blade makes it not a Spydy copy.
And last I can assure you those are good knifes not bad at all combined with the coating I consider this as a better knife ... my opinion .... Somebody told me Chris Reef uses also KG Gun Coat so far I like the coating works great on all the stuff I did so far check this out its my 7mm Mauser ... lots of work.
https://goo.gl/po034E
You call it a "Paramilitary Custom Knife" in your add. Why use the term "paramilitary"? There is no reason to use it other than the fact that it is used by Spyderco on a model that looks almost exactly like this. You keep bragging about the great coating which is another reason why I initially asked the question. If it had been a real Spyderco, then all of that coating would have covered up their usual markings. If you are so positive that it is your custom work that will sell this knife, then why not give a complete and accurate description of the knife. Do you know the saying about putting lipstick on a pig? I'm just concerned that someone may not see past your lipstick and think that they are getting something that they are not. I would think that since it is your reputation that you would also be concerned about that, but your responses seem to indicate otherwise.
You funny yesterday I had a description No Spyderco in top header an ebay start to complain I have to take it out this is done. Now you start to cry about paratrooper ....yeah nobody use this name in combination with a knife until end of time. Just like police knife or military knife. A total joke. It will cut paper just like one of the 200 plus dollar knifes out there maybe even better but I am sure you can see on the pictures that the knife is junk. It will break at first attempt to cut some cardboard. Don t waste my time please.
The term you used was "Paramilitary" not paratrooper or have you changed it now? Why can't you just tell people that this is a Chinese made clone of a popular knife that is made by a company that you will not name. That would be an honest add that doesn't mislead people by leaving out information. I guess honesty and integrity are in short supply these days.
Yeah just like you hiding behind your 0 buy and sale account fresh made today just for one reason :) You try to tell me about be a straight up dude ....
How is that being dishonest. I am not the one trying make money on deliberate misinformation. I haven't had an ebay account in over 15 years and started this one to ask a simple and legitimate question. What is wrong with that?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paramilitary-Cu ... 1906642647
My messages in blue.
Is the item #121906642647 that you have listed an authentic Spyderco knife?
His responses in red.
do you see any Spyderco in description ? it is a custom knife that's what I have list it for all I can say is this knife is nice the blade holds up good and I have one my self for years. I came up with the coating after I went diving. did not like the rust inside from sea water blade was no problem but internal parts. I also coat gun parts so I did decide to start coating knifes I do it the same way just like with the gun parts and it takes me few hours to do one knife.Please keep in mind there is no papers no box no logos on this knife and I do not even like to call it Spyderco because they never made the knife in a style like this with a paint job like this or a logo like this.
I did not see Spyderco anywhere in your add and that is why I asked the question. You obviously know that this is an unauthorized Chinese copy of a Spyderco Paramilitary 2, yet you do not state anywhere that it is a clone or that it is made in China. It is not unreasonable to think that someone might think that they are getting a quality Spyderco when in fact they are not. You should at least give a complete and thorough description of this product unless you are purposely trying to mislead people. Thank you for your prompt response to my question.
sorry but I do not try to miss lead anybody there are no labels on this knife on top of this this knife is not a copy because it is not exactly the same it does not even say Paramilitary 2 in my description, People who buy this knife buy it mostly because of the coating.
I do not see any patent number on those knifes ... therefore they can copy as long as they like to as long they do not use there labels but like I mention it is not even a copy because it is different. Just because it has a hole in the blade makes it not a Spydy copy.
And last I can assure you those are good knifes not bad at all combined with the coating I consider this as a better knife ... my opinion .... Somebody told me Chris Reef uses also KG Gun Coat so far I like the coating works great on all the stuff I did so far check this out its my 7mm Mauser ... lots of work.
https://goo.gl/po034E
You call it a "Paramilitary Custom Knife" in your add. Why use the term "paramilitary"? There is no reason to use it other than the fact that it is used by Spyderco on a model that looks almost exactly like this. You keep bragging about the great coating which is another reason why I initially asked the question. If it had been a real Spyderco, then all of that coating would have covered up their usual markings. If you are so positive that it is your custom work that will sell this knife, then why not give a complete and accurate description of the knife. Do you know the saying about putting lipstick on a pig? I'm just concerned that someone may not see past your lipstick and think that they are getting something that they are not. I would think that since it is your reputation that you would also be concerned about that, but your responses seem to indicate otherwise.
You funny yesterday I had a description No Spyderco in top header an ebay start to complain I have to take it out this is done. Now you start to cry about paratrooper ....yeah nobody use this name in combination with a knife until end of time. Just like police knife or military knife. A total joke. It will cut paper just like one of the 200 plus dollar knifes out there maybe even better but I am sure you can see on the pictures that the knife is junk. It will break at first attempt to cut some cardboard. Don t waste my time please.
The term you used was "Paramilitary" not paratrooper or have you changed it now? Why can't you just tell people that this is a Chinese made clone of a popular knife that is made by a company that you will not name. That would be an honest add that doesn't mislead people by leaving out information. I guess honesty and integrity are in short supply these days.
Yeah just like you hiding behind your 0 buy and sale account fresh made today just for one reason :) You try to tell me about be a straight up dude ....
How is that being dishonest. I am not the one trying make money on deliberate misinformation. I haven't had an ebay account in over 15 years and started this one to ask a simple and legitimate question. What is wrong with that?