A place to list and reference all Spyderco counterfeits, clones, and replicas that are found. Anything that isn't a legitimate Spyderco fits in this area.
Do you think they took a picture of a real Military, and then the one you get in the mail is the fake? That's a really good fake if it's truly a fake one pictured!
The G-10 texture doesn't look right, but other things are really well done.
They already sell a sterile model in chinese D2 steel /9cr18mov/ but that is probably another maker, due the massive screws. The black looks diff. and more 'real'.
Unfortunately I have only pics, I do not plan to buy any of these to examine.
"Having a dull knife is like having a stupid friend."
They are so good at making copies if they put there time in there own style and brand maybe they could make a name for themselves and not steel from others its such a waste of time
Freman wrote:If they get any better it might be worth offering them a contract to produce knives legitimately.
I don't think that S30V is easily available in China. It's probably something like 9Cr18MoV.
My question is this:
If the point is they're making knock-offs, lying about their product, from whence comes the assumption that they are using a cutlery steel at all, and not just some mild steel?
I'm happiest with Micarta and Tool Steel.
Top four in rotation: K390 + GCM PM2, ZCarta Shaman, Crucarta PM2, K390 + GCM Straight Spine Stretch.
If the point is they're making knock-offs, lying about their product, from whence comes the assumption that they are using a cutlery steel at all, and not just some mild steel?
I've handled counterfeits, not of Spydercos but of other brands. They don't use mild steel, they do use some variety of stainless. Why not use stainless? It's cheap enough for Sanrenmu to put it in a $6 knife. These copies are upwards of $60 which in Chinese terms is over $150 for a US made knife. Whilst they won't have a top quality heat treatment, and they're certainly not S30V, they're not made of mild steel either.
Dang, those look accurate. The only hints I see is that the text on the blades looks just slightly off of the correct position and the G-10 texture doesn't look quite right. But unless you were really into Spyderco knives, you might never know the difference!
is that something like a delayed april fools thing?
these millies look so real, that i'm not sure anymore, if mine is an original! :eek:
also very interesting, is, what steel they really use, because, it obviously can't be S30V.
polyhexamethyl wrote:is that something like a delayed april fools thing?
these millies look so real, that i'm not sure anymore, if mine is an original! :eek:
also very interesting, is, what steel they really use, because, it obviously can't be S30V.
No real way to know, unless there's a method of determining the metal composition of a finished product. It's certainly not S30V, getting that in China would cost the manufacturer more than the knife is worth. As I understand it, the premium knife steel that Chinese makers have easy access to is 9Cr18MoV (which I think Sal has done some test knives in) and that knife is priced in their premium range. If they built the knives in Cr12Mo1V1, which is a Chinese equivalent of D2, it would be interesting, but I think the extra machining costs would put them off that, and knives I've handled that claim D2 don't patina which suggests they're really a true stainless like 9Cr.
