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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:00 am
by TazKristi
I know pieces and parts of this site have been posted previously, but here's a link showing 311 products referenced as Spyderco.

Please be aware, NOT ONE of those listings is a genuine Spyderco.

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?Sea ... 0&manual=y

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:00 am
by uidyn
en,,,thanks for sharing, but how do you know that? Have you bought one?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:20 am
by darkstar29
uidyn wrote:en,,,thanks for sharing, but how do you know that? Have you bought one?
Just look at the knives, man. They're terrible chimeras of Spydercos.. Obvious fakes.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:05 pm
by zhyla
A faux collector's cornucopia.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:04 pm
by TazKristi
uidyn wrote:en,,,thanks for sharing, but how do you know that? Have you bought one?
uidyn,
Welcome to the Spyderco Forum. I cannot tell you if we have purchased one or not. That is something our legal team handles. Just the same though, it is not necessary for us to buy one of anything from their site. We are the manufacturer, we can recognize a fake/copy quite easily. We have very loyal fans and we are very proud of what we do. We've spent over 33 years building our name and earning the reputation that we have. So when someone comes along and attempts to make a quick profit off of our hard work and our customer's loyalty to our name, we take that very seriously.

Kristi

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:06 pm
by Evil D
****! I had my heart set on that damascus Native! :rolleyes:

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:27 am
by dialex
uidyn wrote:en,,,thanks for sharing, but how do you know that? Have you bought one?
That was a good one, thanks for the smile! ;)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:09 am
by Blerv
uidyn wrote:en,,,thanks for sharing, but how do you know that? Have you bought one?
She's a Spyderco employee and forum admin. That and those knives are screaming fakes and priced accordingly.

Welcome to the forum.

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:35 pm
by Henry - get both
uidyn wrote:en,,,thanks for sharing, but how do you know that? Have you bought one?
Are you the maker of the fakes? ;)

Its super easy to tell a fake. Like so many knockoffs they are close, yet so far. This is true because the fakers have no interest in making the best knife possible. They are copy cat experts, not knife experts.

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:58 am
by razorsharp
I want the CE paratrooper :eek:

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:48 am
by Brock O Lee
A bit off-topic, but I read today that Yahoo owns a large share of Alibaba. Strange.

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:54 pm
by Sithus1966
Scary Dragonfly, they learned to put clip slots on both sides.

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:41 am
by DJFrostbyte
TazKristi wrote:I know pieces and parts of this site have been posted previously, but here's a link showing 311 products referenced as Spyderco.

Please be aware, NOT ONE of those listings is a genuine Spyderco.

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?Sea ... 0&manual=y
That is just sickening.... I hate fakers.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:10 am
by shotcaller88
I just saw some of the orange paras on ebay for $109. With the packaging and all, it's not easy to tell these are fakes from the photos. The previous knock offs were pitiful.

I don't like this one bit.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:38 am
by Blerv
At this point the only orange para2's are available from individuals. If one didn't buy a new one from Cutleryshoppe they should be very cautious or simply not buy one.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:06 am
by sal
We met with and spoke with our congressman regarding the counterfit issue. He wasn't aware that there was a problem. We're trying to get the Government to get involved in what we believe is a serious problem to the econony of our country. Spyderco is certainly not the only named brand being counterfeited.

Ali Baba is trying to get a seat on the US stock exchange. I guess that will legitimize counterfeiting :confused:

I guess we can try a grass roots effort? Maybe contact our congress representatives to alert them to the problem? I know many companies like; Zippo, clothing mfrs, watch mfrs, videos etc. have been fighting this for a long time. 'Tis a puzzlement.

sal

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:47 pm
by Chris_H
Sal,

Can you make a complaint to the SEC regarding Ali Baba's counterfeiting and illegal business practices? Perhpas that could weigh against them being able to secure that stock exchange seat.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:15 pm
by sal
Hi Chris,

We thought that would best come from our congressman. I think general awareness helps curtail people doing bad things to good people. We're a small company and we're all pretty busy, but we do extend a fair effort to make things right. Peter handles most of our legal issues and he's working with a few US agencies and our attorneys in Beijing. I think the more people that become aware and share their awareness is the best way to move forward.

Much of the knife industry is affected and are reacting. I understand that AKTI is beginning to address the issue as well.

sal

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:32 pm
by Chris_H
Absolutely... Apply pressure on multiple fronts to maximize your effort.

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:10 pm
by ugaarguy
Sal, has there been any effort by the Spyderco legal team to directly contact US Customs or file complaints or requests for enforcement through the OIG of the US Postal Service? It seems most of these knives are shipped to individuals via international mail with shipping within the US handled by the USPS through reciprocal international mail agreements. Would that not fall under the jurisdiction of the US Postal Inspectors who are under the Inspector General of the USPS?