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Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:47 pm
by TazKristi
As most of you know, the growing number of Spyderco-like knock-offs, "replicas" and fakes is a problem.

As Sal says, 'tis a PITA.

As a small company it’s not possible to have someone on staff searching for these things. You are a key part of our awareness. Your efforts are appreciated more than we can express.

In an attempt to consolidate the information, all posts alerting the forum to Spyderco-like products (knock-offs, “replicas” and fakes) will be moved to this new sub-forum.

Please post any new threads regarding knock-offs, etc. here.

This will not only help us, but it will help new members become Edge-U-cated on the problem.

Thanx Much! :spyder:

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:03 pm
by tonydahose
if you ever to want see all (or almost all the fake ones) just go to the chinese ebay...i typed in spyderco in the search and 2100 items popped up...the real ones have a much higher price

http://search.eachnet.com/search/c3B5ZGVyY28=--0-2.html

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:12 pm
by jezabel
No problem Kristi, anything to help y'all keep on top of things.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:28 pm
by 224477
Thanks for creating this subforum Kristi, was about time!

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:38 pm
by SoCal Operator
Excellent idea for a subforum.

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:10 am
by bohica1998
I've been trying. Whenever I see one that doesn't look right, I usually sound off.

(Of course, I sometimes goof too. How was I to know the Assist has a "crack" built into it, hehe?)

A possible candidate for this sub-forum?

http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38576

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:35 pm
by MountainManJim
It's not a knock-off, but it is false advertising.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-Firefly-NE ... 7C294%3A50

Jim

more fakes

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:34 pm
by tonydahose
Rob found these but i didnt see that he posted it here so credit goes to him.

http://cgi.ebay.at/TACTICAL-POCKET-FOLD ... 1|294%3A30

http://cgi.ebay.at/NEW-STAINLESS-POCKET ... 2|294%3A30

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:44 am
by Waco
Is nothing safe from cheap copies? I'm used to seeing threads about fake wristwatches. Now we have to watch out for fake pocket knives? Personally, I avoid Ebay like the plague and stick to forums where fake sellers don't last long.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:44 pm
by The Deacon
waco kid wrote:Is nothing safe from cheap copies? I'm used to seeing threads about fake wristwatches. Now we have to watch out for fake pocket knives? Personally, I avoid Ebay like the plague and stick to forums where fake sellers don't last long.
Probably not, **** precious little anyway. I've heard tell they clone $15 SAKs.

terzuola

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:19 pm
by Ms89glide
I noticed a c-15 on ebay, but it is a g-10 handle with plain edge. I don't think spyderco made this combination.
ms89glide

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:47 pm
by Fishstalker
Here is a knock off Poliwog: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18078
It even comes with a spydie hole.

Or how about this knock off S Silver: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21376

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:47 pm
by john row
Particularly for Tazchristi, but please - I welcome any one to respond.

Does Spyderco pursue the perps now?

I've been out of circulation for awhile, but, it appears to me (IMHO) that this is still a problem more of rip offs of spydieholes, blade shapes, poor efforts at locking mechs,etc. As opposed to "professional" attempts at fooling people passing POS as real spydies. IE Stamping of "Seki Japan", "Spyderco", metal designations, etc. (patented stuff, but still not a serious attempt at counterfeiting. Just proprietary theft. Which is just as bad.

This seems to be a problem much the same as it was 10 or 12 years ago when I started buying Spyderco products. Can anyone who owns or has handled one real spydie (or Benchmade, Emerson, or other high quality products even Rolex for that matter) be fooled. I realize that people buy a lot "touch unfelt" but still a little research ...

And yes, I see that some novice could be fooled. Which IS a bad thing. I ask myself, whether that buyer who is attracted to a $6.00 look a like would spend the money for the real deal, anyway. IF there would come a time where he/she becomes enthusiastic enough to get the real thing, I believe he'll take time to research probably coming here.

Have there been any POS fakes sent in to SFO requesting warranty replacement or repair? Or even any lawsuits against Spyderco for a Fakes' failure of performance or safety?

There is no argument from me that knockoffs are bad. But it is mho that this is a "Caveat Emptor" situation. Aggravating, disgusting, but ...

Sal had a very laid back philosophy regarding this matter (or it seemed to me anyway) years ago. Has that changed? Spyderco / Mr Glesser gives credit / royalties to Ernie Emerson and Mr Boye, etc. He and his company have integrity, and honor.

Others don't.


Just my observations. Not arguing for or against anything. I can't remember an iota of what I used to know about Spydies. I came back to re learn and find out abut the stuff I missed.

Cheers,
John

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:23 pm
by SmoothOne25
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION TO ME. very interested in it!
john why dont you move this to the "gen discus" area? this is def worthy of a long discussion among us. i am eager to know about such things as well...
imo sal is still really passive/laid back. but i would love to know the answers to those questions.
i was ripped off too on a tuffron civilian for $130 shipped. (great deal, right? i thought so too. :rolleyes: lol) got my money back though from ebay, which if you look has just recently changed there insurance policy to include every form of payment

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:41 pm
by john row
Didn't mean to infer it wasn't important. It sounds like you exposed and were made "whole" again in your bad deal. (sorry for the "legal" like viewpoint).

I've been ripped too (though not on a knife) Exposed him, got reimbursed, and he/ she got banned from the auction site. It was a much larger scam and State Attorneys got involved (not Colorado) I wasn't the only victim. Others exposed him too.

In any event, it would be interesting to hear about warranty turn ins or liabilty concerns.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:22 pm
by ssmtbracer

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:25 pm
by Waco
ssmtbracer wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-Tim-Zowada ... 3efe546b0f

I don't know about this one.
The odd position of hole made me think it was fake, but it looks just this one in the catalog. What good is the hole if you can't get to it when the knife is closed?

http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=453

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:46 pm
by araneae
Not a fake, and the hole is accessible from the right hand side. When in doubt, check the spyderco.com catalog first.

best way to tell the difference

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:50 pm
by paulkelley42
New to Spydercos. I bought a Tenacious online for EDC based on reviews. How can I determine if it's a clone? I would expect even an entry level knife to be sharp. It's not. It's far duller than some Kershaws, SOGs and even cheap $10 CRKTs. Thanks.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:42 am
by 224477
paulkelley42 wrote:New to Spydercos. I bought a Tenacious online for EDC based on reviews. How can I determine if it's a clone? I would expect even an entry level knife to be sharp. It's not. It's far duller than some Kershaws, SOGs and even cheap $10 CRKTs. Thanks.
Post a pic and we will tell you.
The dullness can be individual feeling in comparison to other knives. I would not worry about that, make it sharp.