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Oh no...

Postby archangel » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:59 am

How could I have been so ignorant?

Apparently I have successfully blended out for years that there is a length limit to blades of automatic knives in Germany, in order for them to be legal. :( It's 8,5cm. And the Autonomy 1/2 have blades of 9,4/8,9cm. They are illegal in Germany!! :mad:

Dang it.....
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Re: Oh no...

Postby VooDooChild » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:09 pm

So break the law.
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Re: Oh no...

Postby Wartstein » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:20 pm

Move just a bit to the south - come and live in Austria! :)
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Re: Oh no...

Postby JRinFL » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:55 pm

Blades can be shortened by carefully stoning or grinding the top edge down. Many have done it here, though I have not needed to do so yet. Uncoated blades will look better, of course. Will it be confiscated when shipped, or is it legal to own, but not legal to carry based on blade length laws?
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Re: Oh no...

Postby archangel » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:09 pm

No, they are plain illegal. German dealers can't sell them, and if you privately order one from the US or any other country where they are legal, they would be sacked when customs spot them. So shortening the blade is not an option cause you can't even get it into Germany. The only way would be to smuggle it in. Too risky...
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Re: Oh no...

Postby Senfkarte » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:50 pm

archangel wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:59 am
How could I have been so ignorant?

Apparently I have successfully blended out for years that there is a length limit to blades of automatic knives in Germany, in order for them to be legal. :( It's 8,5cm. And the Autonomy 1/2 have blades of 9,4/8,9cm. They are illegal in Germany!! :mad:

Dang it.....
I think its even more restrictive. Automatic knives are illegal independent of the blade length. The 8.5 cm apply only to assisted knives, if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Oh no...

Postby archangel » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:54 pm

No, automatic knives are not illegal per se. Böker and many other dealers do sell automatic knives in Germany. Just models with blades shorter than 8,5cm.

OTFs and butterflies/balisongs are per se illegal, independant of the blade length. Not sure about balisong trainers, but probably the are ok since they have no real blade.

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Re: Oh no...

Postby Senfkarte » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:30 pm

archangel wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:54 pm
No, automatic knives are not illegal per se. Böker and many other dealers do sell automatic knives in Germany. Just models with blades shorter than 8,5cm.

OTFs and butterflies/balisongs are per se illegal, independant of the blade length. Not sure about balisong trainers, but probably the are ok since they have no real blade.

https://www.outdoormesser.de/Messerrech ... %20besitzt.
Yes, you are right. I always misunderstood the law around automatic knives. Good to know.

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Re: Oh no...

Postby Abyss_Fish » Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:21 pm

I've had a realization like this a few months ago. I had just sold a microtech exocet after deciding it wasn't for me, and found out that in my state that it's illegal to own autos. I had been under the impression that they were only illegal to carry lol.
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Re: Oh no...

Postby Wartstein » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:27 pm

Abyss_Fish wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:21 pm
I've had a realization like this a few months ago. I had just sold a microtech exocet after deciding it wasn't for me, and found out that in my state that it's illegal to own autos. I had been under the impression that they were only illegal to carry lol.

Now, just that I get this right: In your state you are literally not allowed to OWN an Auto, even if you only keep it at home in a drawer - ?!? :eek: :confused:
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Re: Oh no...

Postby Abyss_Fish » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:03 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:27 pm
Abyss_Fish wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:21 pm
I've had a realization like this a few months ago. I had just sold a microtech exocet after deciding it wasn't for me, and found out that in my state that it's illegal to own autos. I had been under the impression that they were only illegal to carry lol.

Now, just that I get this right: In your state you are literally not allowed to OWN an Auto, even if you only keep it at home in a drawer - ?!? :eek: :confused:
Yep in Minnesota the legislation essentially says “it is legal to own and carry any knife as long as it is not a ‘switchblade’.”

Although the courts decide on the definition of switchblade case to case, so its safest to not own anything even vaguely assisted. Fun place I know, at least Balisongs and other weird knives are fully unrestricted.
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