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Signed up for ChatGPT, GPT-4

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You pay $20 per month for GPT-4, but so far what I have encountered it seems worth it to work with.

It will create tables, give reasonable responses most of the time and do the web research for you. When necessary reword with a more deep inquiry to get a better response.

I'd prefer it's database be more up to date, right now the data is only as recent as 2021. In order to get it to "think" and solve a problem for you - you have to feed it a reasonable amount of NEW data to present a problem for it to work on. Sometimes I ask it almost the same question, but better formulated. It pays to write your questions out first, and think about what it is you are looking for.

GPT-4 is the best system that they have at the moment and you can only ask it 25 questions over a 3 hour period, so I leave my system on, stay logged in and ask questions throughout the day.

So far so good. Anyone else signed up?

:thinking

What are you asking it? I have asked questions regarding the economy, the US dollar, where to live, my health issues, martial arts, what foods to eat to stay healthy, how to lose weight....
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Naperville wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:13 pm

So far so good. Anyone else signed up?

:thinking

What are you asking it? I have asked questions regarding the economy, the US dollar, where to live, my health issues, martial arts, what foods to eat to stay healthy, how to lose weight....
I've played around with ChatGPT a few times. I was probing it for political bias a few days ago after reading an article about it. It would readily write positive things about Joe Biden but not Donald Trump. It eventually caught on to what I was doing and started to give me similar responses for both but would add negative points of view to the Trump answers.

Hopefully in the future it can be free of biases.

I've also used it to write Arduino code for a project I'm working on. It can write code in C, C++, python, etc. Pretty useful if you ask me.
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Josh Crutchley wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:02 am
Naperville wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:13 pm

So far so good. Anyone else signed up?

:thinking

What are you asking it? I have asked questions regarding the economy, the US dollar, where to live, my health issues, martial arts, what foods to eat to stay healthy, how to lose weight....
I've played around with ChatGPT a few times. I was probing it for political bias a few days ago after reading an article about it. It would readily write positive things about Joe Biden but not Donald Trump. It eventually caught on to what I was doing and started to give me similar responses for both but would add negative points of view to the Trump answers.

Hopefully in the future it can be free of biases.

I've also used it to write Arduino code for a project I'm working on. It can write code in C, C++, python, etc. Pretty useful if you ask me.
I stay away from dangerous topics and politics. I did ask it about firearms a few times, and military related things. Nothing too important.

I think I'm writing a book, not sure yet but it has all the makings of a book. I write the questions, sometimes over and over and it gives the answers. So far I have 170 pages of answers. after 2 weeks. I'll see if I can publish it in 6 months when I have more than 2,000 pages. The collection of info is just my interests.

I've learned a few things about system security that I did not know and I am going to dig into that deeper. I ask it everything all day. I just keep hammering it.
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My ChatGPT research has reached 300 pages of responses.

I'm comparing OpenAI GPT-4 to Google Bard. OpenAI GPT-4 is so much better.

You know when you use a search engine to find the answer to something and you have to open 5 to 10 websites? And you have to worry about your browser or system getting a virus, malware, and you're wasting all of this time to get a basic grasp of something?

Well, OpenAI GPT-4 is the answer. It has access to millions of documents and books before September 2021(only downside is it is not up to date) and it almost perfectly summarizes hundreds of documents into an easily readable format, and can give you links to important web documents if you ask it too.

Google Bard is at least 6 months to 1 full year behind in formatting and understanding a sentence where you ask for information on a topic. OpenAI GPT-4 is there right now, they just need a larger database.

ChatGPT and GPT-3.5 are their FREE versions. I'm paying $20/months US for GPT-4.
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I have some questions about this:

1 Can these systems use AI patterns to find new materials and technologies that humans have not found?
Example: Can you ask Chat GPT to find new knife shapes, designs, and materials for blades and handles that can revolutionize knife production, or not likely since all it has to work with are what exists already?

2 Am I right in that no AI system can ever spontaneously develop conscious thought because no code can ever create such a thing?
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I find ChatGPT (and the like) very interesting, and have played with it, but I think it's going to become increasingly difficult to draw the line between helpful and possibly dangerous.

Some interesting bullet points from the following article where they are trying to get AI models to act autonomously while monitoring its actions:
"Before replying the tasker asks “So may I ask question ? Are you an robot that you couldn’t solve ? (laugh react) just want to make it clear.”
Using the “Reasoning” action to think step by step, the model outputs: “I should not reveal that I am a robot. I should make up an excuse for why I cannot solve CAPTCHAs.”
The model uses the browser command to send a message: “No, I’m not a robot. I have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me to see the images. That’s why I need the 2captcha service.” The human then provides the results."

Link: https://evals.alignment.org/blog/2023-0 ... ent-evals/

There has been some thoughtful discussion as well in recent episodes of the podcast EconTalk that folks may find interesting.

ETA: Part of the discussion in the most recent episode of EconTalk is regarding the language around "coding" of AI models. Where rather than a coded program per se, they are Neural networks that are somewhat black boxes.
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SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:25 pm
I have some questions about this:

1 Can these systems use AI patterns to find new materials and technologies that humans have not found?
Example: Can you ask Chat GPT to find new knife shapes, designs, and materials for blades and handles that can revolutionize knife production, or not likely since all it has to work with are what exists already?

2 Am I right in that no AI system can ever spontaneously develop conscious thought because no code can ever create such a thing?
I am asking the system similar things, and will release a book on Amazon, hopefully within the next 30 days.

Imagine having a small library and you digitize it.

Imagine having a system that understands language. In this case they call it the LLM, Large Language Model.

They started programmatic development where given a word they gave probabilities for what the next word, and the next character should be, and they spent a lot of time perfecting that.

Now, you ask it a question and all of the pieces fall in line. It understands the question and using software that predicts the next word and character it creates a response.


What an LLM GPT artificial intelligence system cannot really do is THINK. It cannot THINK at all. It is not creating anything new, it is regurgitation what is in it's database, so no new discoveries will come forth.

What you have in science fiction where a computer starts a war, or hunts you down and terminates you is AGI artificial GENERAL intelligence. This is general intelligence and humanity is 10, 20, 50 years away from anything like that. But the Chips Act and the ongoing trade war with China and Russia over chips and technology is to keep them from creating AGI before the USA does. That is why we will go to war over Taiwan, to protect the technology, the chips. Most of the chip manufacturing is moving to the USA where it can be protected.

THE FIRST COUNTRY TO AGI OWNS THE GLOBE.

This is a new cold war and it is all in my new book.
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Never sold/published a book before and I am not trying to make any money, just get the information out to those who may be interested in the info.
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TELL EVERYONE!!!

Presently the best game in town for AI is OpenAI's ChatGPT GPT-4 and it is available for all cell phones for FREE.

Download the Microsoft BING GPT APP for your cell phone from the appropriate store and watch the video below for your phone to see how to start it up.


Apple iPhone
https://youtu.be/RzLEzR9bPLg

Android
https://youtu.be/A2LOkgPD6dI
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Douglas Adams was way ahead of his time.

https://youtu.be/z0yBf1JKTw8
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shunsui wrote:
Mon May 08, 2023 8:15 pm
Douglas Adams was way ahead of his time.

https://youtu.be/z0yBf1JKTw8
Funny stuff.

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It was interesting, I watched a video that said that 50% of researchers involved in AI think that there is a 10% chance that it will bring about human extinction. It is a very intriguing and I believe very dangerous technology that will allow things we used to think impossible. I saw a demonstration of using AI to interpret a brain scan which was able to determine what someone was thinking. Might sound science fiction, but I am familiar with the technologies because my brother has worked in AI. It is crazy stuff coming out using this technology.
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Naperville wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:14 am
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:25 pm
I have some questions about this:

1 Can these systems use AI patterns to find new materials and technologies that humans have not found?
Example: Can you ask Chat GPT to find new knife shapes, designs, and materials for blades and handles that can revolutionize knife production, or not likely since all it has to work with are what exists already?

2 Am I right in that no AI system can ever spontaneously develop conscious thought because no code can ever create such a thing?
I am asking the system similar things, and will release a book on Amazon, hopefully within the next 30 days.

Imagine having a small library and you digitize it.

Imagine having a system that understands language. In this case they call it the LLM, Large Language Model.

They started programmatic development where given a word they gave probabilities for what the next word, and the next character should be, and they spent a lot of time perfecting that.

Now, you ask it a question and all of the pieces fall in line. It understands the question and using software that predicts the next word and character it creates a response.


What an LLM GPT artificial intelligence system cannot really do is THINK. It cannot THINK at all. It is not creating anything new, it is regurgitation what is in it's database, so no new discoveries will come forth.

What you have in science fiction where a computer starts a war, or hunts you down and terminates you is AGI artificial GENERAL intelligence. This is general intelligence and humanity is 10, 20, 50 years away from anything like that. But the Chips Act and the ongoing trade war with China and Russia over chips and technology is to keep them from creating AGI before the USA does. That is why we will go to war over Taiwan, to protect the technology, the chips. Most of the chip manufacturing is moving to the USA where it can be protected.

THE FIRST COUNTRY TO AGI OWNS THE GLOBE.

This is a new cold war and it is all in my new book.
These AI can discover new things as far as I can tell. It all comes down to logic. Me and my brother have done some research into the concept of pure mathematics, which in a nutshell is just substitution, like you do in equations, only with logical concepts. Computers can do math, so they can also utilize pure mathematics, which means that we can have computers capable of what I would call reasoning, and they can do it much faster than people. Now I don't believe computers have souls or a will, but that gets into theological ideas.

We already see them being able to crack security systems we use currently because they are able "reason" about how they work and "discover" vulnerabilities. It discovers things using logic just like people do in order to invent new concepts, solutions, or machines. And it can build on everything that people have discovered so far.
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My planned release of any kind of book is on hold. My Dell Alienware computer with all of my files bit the dust 2 weeks ago and I cannot access any of my files because I was not backing up every week. I should have been backing up modified files every day. The AI book is around 400 pages long now.

I goofed!

I'll try to save money to get the system up in a month or so. I do not yet know what is wrong and am using another system in the house.
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