That's a very wise viewpoint. I wish more people in this world thought like you.
Did you know that in Washington State, you can have a public fight. You can have an argument with someone, and it may turn in to a challenge match right there on the street, and the cops will even provide "security" for the match. No charges will be pressed.The Deacon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:36 amBy that logic, we should allow dueling.
As for the bulls, is the meat used, or wasted? If the later, I'd agree with you. But, if the former, why is being killed in a bull ring any worse than being killed in a slaughterhouse? Please don't try to convince me those animals don't know something bad is about to happen, not that I've ever let that stop me from enjoying a steak or a hamburger.
I'd have to agree with this. I saw a bullfight in Spain a long time ago. El Cordobés if I recall correctly. It wasn't something that appealed to your sense of fair play. I wonder how many people root for the bull to kill the matador. Maybe that's the whole subversive point ?
The food is great. Never visited a knife store so I have no knowledge of Spanish knives.SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:31 amAmazing and fascinating insights.
Michael, that is very neat that you lived in Spain. If I may ask, how did you like the food there, such as the traditional tapas and things? I have heard they make some very great local meats and cheeses and also breads, as do the French and others, ofcourse. Also, at the time did you visit their famous knife stores and handle and see the traditional Spanish Navajas? Those are very good knives.
I have heard some advocates who believe engineers should build realistic animatronic robotic bulls for bull fights and animatronic human looking boxer robots for boxing, to replace actual living animals and actual people, so the audience/fans get to see the physical activities without any harm being done to the animals or the humans. Do you all think this would ever be worth it for human science and engineering to produce, or, it would be a waste because fans would not want to see that done?
Bloke, how do you do it?!
Yea if I was a bull I'd rather a shot to go down fighting than be killed in a slaughterhouse.MichaelScott wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:54 amI lived in Spain for two years. I studied the history of bullfighting and read Death in the Afternoon. I have seen many bullfights. I have sat by the road and watched the toros and vaca bravas for hours. It is obvious that few Americans understand what a corrida is about or how it is done, much less why.
A Spanish toro is by nature a serious and deadly fighting animal. So is man (refer to our long history of killing one another). There are few arenas in which humans get to test themselves with the outcome of success or death. We have managed to remove that factor from almost everything and consider those who refuse to comply as crazy, thrill-seeking lunatics. Even the “brutal” and inherently dangerous activities like MMA, car racing and sword fighting have been regulated to reduce the chance of death.
The bull gets to go out fighting according to its nature and so does the torero. The dead bull is used for food, usually for those who can’t afford much. Same can’t be said for the matador.
It’s easy to denigrate the practices and activities of a different culture that we don’t understand. Happens all the time.
It's kept me safe on my travels around the world.
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