It can’t just be the foreign accent, because most of the Australian and UK/Irish actors in Hollywood use the generic American accent in their roles here (and quite well, I might add). Maybe there is a shortage of mostly male, young, talented American actors.
Jim
And Women...
And ones that don't have their heads up their.... Well you get it. LOL
They have to do what they have to do in the end.
Lol, yup.
I studied screen acting for a few years, and while I met some nice people there and at some of the auditions and projects I took part in, I also unfortunately met several young aspiring actors, both male and female, who were extremely arrogant and delusional about their own talents. I still haven’t seen or heard of any of them in any big productions (or any at all, for that matter), so I guess none of them were The Next Big Thing.
Jim
And likely never will either.... ROFL...
I will take a Big Mac, Fries and a LG Coke please... ROFL :D
The thing is, the screen acting school I trained at, has a better-than-average track record of students getting work in local as well as some Hollywood TV and film productions and commercials. I’ve seen some of the stuff people were in, including two of my acting coaches. In fact, my favorite acting coach is in a current commercial where her character is talking to her husband about his depression...I’m not sure if that one has gone national or not, but I suspect it might be. However, I haven’t seen hide nor hair of the arrogant ones who were so sure they were better than everyone else.
The thing is, the screen acting school I trained at, has a better-than-average track record of students getting work in local as well as some Hollywood TV and film productions and commercials. I’ve seen some of the stuff people were in, including two of my acting coaches. In fact, my favorite acting coach is in a current commercial where her character is talking to her husband about his depression...I’m not sure if that one has gone national or not, but I suspect it might be. However, I haven’t seen hide nor hair of the arrogant ones who were so sure they were better than everyone else.
Jim
A lot of them end up doing commercials and or Soap Operas, Soaps can be good because they are steady work to develop their talents.
Some VERY good actors have come out of the Soaps over the years.
True. The actors in soap operas are acting all the time. The same with actors with a significant theatrical (stage) background, which I’m certain most of the soap actors have. That’s where a lot of the European (and most likely Australian and New Zealand) actors got their feet wet. Stage experience gives an actor a significant advantage in crossing over to small and big screen acting. Many New York-based TV actors also come from the stage, as NYC is a theatre town. This is obvious in shows like Law & Order: SVU and others. It’s MUCH easier to tone down one’s mannerisms for the screen than to have to hype one’s self up from a low-energy position to fill a role. All a stage actor needs to do is tone it down and act naturally and more subtly for the screen. Both of my acting coaches originally came from a theatrical background, and still took parts both on stage and the small screen.
True. The actors in soap operas are acting all the time. The same with actors with a significant theatrical (stage) background, which I’m certain most of the soap actors have. That’s where a lot of the European (and most likely Australian and New Zealand) actors got their feet wet. Stage experience gives an actor a significant advantage in crossing over to small and big screen acting. Many New York-based TV actors also come from the stage, as NYC is a theatre town. This is obvious in shows like Law & Order: SVU and others. It’s MUCH easier to tone down one’s mannerisms for the screen than to have to hype one’s self up from a low-energy position to fill a role. All a stage actor needs to do is tone it down and act naturally and more subtly for the screen. Both of my acting coaches originally came from a theatrical background, and still took parts both on stage and the small screen.
I have a family member that is a voice coach/teacher and has gotten to know a few actors that went on to making movies and TV stuff. She explained to me the reality of the lives of the ones she taught. Most of them have been doing specialized training since very young. They have voice teachers, dance teachers, acting coaches, etc. Their parents have put literally tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into their children. Many of these children even find time to get good grades at school, do well in sports and have other activities. These kids know what they want from life and do work hard for it. All that is admirable to me. The thing though is the parents. I know of a couple that moved the whole family to L.A./Hollywood for their child's "career".
I have respect for people who make themselves succeed through hard work and effort and bettering themselves for their chosen field to make themselves more desirable by learning languages and becoming good actors and such but I'll never see how it is right for a parent/parents to wrap theirs and their other children's lives around one childs career to that degree. It isn't all that uncommon though.
I have a family member that is a voice coach/teacher and has gotten to know a few actors that went on to making movies and TV stuff. She explained to me the reality of the lives of the ones she taught. Most of them have been doing specialized training since very young. They have voice teachers, dance teachers, acting coaches, etc. Their parents have put literally tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into their children. Many of these children even find time to get good grades at school, do well in sports and have other activities. These kids know what they want from life and do work hard for it. All that is admirable to me. The thing though is the parents. I know of a couple that moved the whole family to L.A./Hollywood for their child's "career".
I have respect for people who make themselves succeed through hard work and effort and bettering themselves for their chosen field to make themselves more desirable by learning languages and becoming good actors and such but I'll never see how it is right for a parent/parents to wrap theirs and their other children's lives around one childs career to that degree. It isn't all that uncommon though.
Those types of parents clearly see their precocious child as their cash cow. Personally, if I had a child who was training acting, voice, singing, etc., had some natural talent and wanted to become a star, I would make him or her wait until they turned 18. I’ve heard too many horror stories of child actors and their parents in Hollywood. Some make a good go of it into adulthood, but the Hollywood lifestyle messes a lot of them up. I’m not going into some of the biggest reasons here.
I have a family member that is a voice coach/teacher and has gotten to know a few actors that went on to making movies and TV stuff. She explained to me the reality of the lives of the ones she taught. Most of them have been doing specialized training since very young. They have voice teachers, dance teachers, acting coaches, etc. Their parents have put literally tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into their children. Many of these children even find time to get good grades at school, do well in sports and have other activities. These kids know what they want from life and do work hard for it. All that is admirable to me. The thing though is the parents. I know of a couple that moved the whole family to L.A./Hollywood for their child's "career".
I have respect for people who make themselves succeed through hard work and effort and bettering themselves for their chosen field to make themselves more desirable by learning languages and becoming good actors and such but I'll never see how it is right for a parent/parents to wrap theirs and their other children's lives around one childs career to that degree. It isn't all that uncommon though.
Those types of parents clearly see their precocious child as their cash cow. Personally, if I had a child who was training acting, voice, singing, etc., had some natural talent and wanted to become a star, I would make him or her wait until they turned 18. I’ve heard too many horror stories of child actors and their parents in Hollywood. Some make a good go of it into adulthood, but the Hollywood lifestyle messes a lot of them up. I’m not going into some of the biggest reasons here.
Jim
A lot of horror stories, yeah we won't talk about those here. :eek:
I think the parents are one of the biggest problems, something that has been seen more times than we can count over the years.
Kinda like the Athletes and Beauty Pageant types, same deal.
Heck we have one local to Joe and I Guy here from NC that won American Idol, he was underage when he won.
As soon as he could he got far away from his parents if that tells you anything, far away.
It was 1965 in San Antonio. My neighbor's sister checked the strap holding her guitar case to the luggage rack on her boyfriend's green MGB. As they drove away, I asked her brother, an 11th grade classmate of mine, "Where are they going."
"To Hollywood to be discovered," he replied. His sister and her boyfriend had played guitar and sung folk songs to entertain us in his living room, but I blurted, "You can't go to Hollywood and be discovered."
Maybe you've heard of him. Mike Nesmith of the Monkees.
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Those types of parents clearly see their precocious child as their cash cow. Personally, if I had a child who was training acting, voice, singing, etc., had some natural talent and wanted to become a star, I would make him or her wait until they turned 18. I’ve heard too many horror stories of child actors and their parents in Hollywood. Some make a good go of it into adulthood, but the Hollywood lifestyle messes a lot of them up. I’m not going into some of the biggest reasons here.
No question about that. I'd guess that is what they had in mind when they brought them to class after class, as well as paid for not just braces but complete cosmetic workups and cosmetic surgical procedures well before the kid is even 18. My guess is they see it as an investment. Imagine being the other sister or brother who has to follow along while the whole family becomes a support net for the other more successful child. :rolleyes:
Those types of parents clearly see their precocious child as their cash cow. Personally, if I had a child who was training acting, voice, singing, etc., had some natural talent and wanted to become a star, I would make him or her wait until they turned 18. I’ve heard too many horror stories of child actors and their parents in Hollywood. Some make a good go of it into adulthood, but the Hollywood lifestyle messes a lot of them up. I’m not going into some of the biggest reasons here.
No question about that. I'd guess that is what they had in mind when they brought them to class after class, as well as paid for not just braces but complete cosmetic workups and cosmetic surgical procedures well before the kid is even 18. My guess is they see it as an investment. Imagine being the other sister or brother who has to follow along while the whole family becomes a support net for the other more successful child. :rolleyes:
I think there needs to be laws written to make this Illegal to protect the kids from the toxic parents.
I’ve heard of at least a couple cases where successful child actors ended up becoming legally emancipated from their parents because of the parents’ greed.
I’ve heard of at least a couple cases where successful child actors ended up becoming legally emancipated from their parents because of the parents’ greed.
Jim
That happens more often than you think actually.
I read someplace that if a kid wins American Idol they have lawyers in place to protect the kids and their won and future assets from the parents etc.
So that is separating the parents from the kids like you are talking about.
I’ve heard of at least a couple cases where successful child actors ended up becoming legally emancipated from their parents because of the parents’ greed.
Jim
That happens more often than you think actually.
I read someplace that if a kid wins American Idol they have lawyers in place to protect the kids and their won assets from the parents etc.
That’s a very good thing, IMO.
One of my acting coaches (this one was a guy) also sometimes works as a casting director. He told us that one time, as he was auditioning actors for a small horror project, a woman came in and was crowing about how great an actor her young (preteen) daughter was (the child wasn’t actually present). My coach told her that he wasn’t auditioning kids for this particular project. He said the mom insisted that her child could do ANYTHING. My coach decided to test her, to see what kind of person this mom was. He told her something like there is a scene involving a child being brutally attacked. The mom repeated to him, “She will do ANYTHING.” At this point, he was disgusted enough that he told the mom that there was no such scene, and that she needs to leave and get psychological help.
I’ve heard of at least a couple cases where successful child actors ended up becoming legally emancipated from their parents because of the parents’ greed.
Jim
That happens more often than you think actually.
I read someplace that if a kid wins American Idol they have lawyers in place to protect the kids and their won assets from the parents etc.
That’s a very good thing, IMO.
One of my acting coaches (this one was a guy) also sometimes works as a casting director. He told us that one time, as he was auditioning actors for a small horror project, a woman came in and was crowing about how great an actor her young (preteen) daughter was (the child wasn’t actually present). My coach told her that he wasn’t auditioning kids for this particular project. He said the mom insisted that her child could do ANYTHING. My coach decided to test her, to see what kind of person this mom was. He told her something like there is a scene involving a child being brutally attacked. The mom repeated to him, “She will do ANYTHING.” At this point, he was disgusted enough that he told the mom that there was no such scene, and that she needs to leave and get psychological help.
Jim
OMG... :eek:
American Idol makes the contestants go though the paperwork with the lawyers etc once they reach a certain stage.
Then once they win they finalize the paperwork and set everything up for them taking care of all the legal and financial matters.
So if they do win they are at that point separated from the parents legally.
Yes, that was a great thing that they do.
It would be a disaster for AI if they didn't do it and protect them really.
Uh... let me make sure I understand. The parents invest tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands to develop the talent of a child who is self motivated, relocate their family, make sacrifices and forsake their own careers, work two or three jobs to pay for it all and then American Idol cuts them off and cashes in on the kid?
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Uh... let me make sure I understand. The parents invest tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands to develop the talent of a child who is self motivated, relocate their family, make sacrifices and forsake their own careers, work two or three jobs to pay for it all and then American Idol cuts them off and cashes in on the kid?
Nobody that has ever actually won AI had parents that even came remotely close to that.....
I have a family member that is a voice coach/teacher and has gotten to know a few actors that went on to making movies and TV stuff. She explained to me the reality of the lives of the ones she taught. Most of them have been doing specialized training since very young. They have voice teachers, dance teachers, acting coaches, etc. Their parents have put literally tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into their children. Many of these children even find time to get good grades at school, do well in sports and have other activities. These kids know what they want from life and do work hard for it. All that is admirable to me. The thing though is the parents. I know of a couple that moved the whole family to L.A./Hollywood for their child's "career".
I have respect for people who make themselves succeed through hard work and effort and bettering themselves for their chosen field to make themselves more desirable by learning languages and becoming good actors and such but I'll never see how it is right for a parent/parents to wrap theirs and their other children's lives around one childs career to that degree. It isn't all that uncommon though.
Those types of parents clearly see their precocious child as their cash cow. Personally, if I had a child who was training acting, voice, singing, etc., had some natural talent and wanted to become a star, I would make him or her wait until they turned 18. I’ve heard too many horror stories of child actors and their parents in Hollywood. Some make a good go of it into adulthood, but the Hollywood lifestyle messes a lot of them up. I’m not going into some of the biggest reasons here.
Jim
JIm I couldn't agree with you more The lineup of kid actors from the 60s thru the 80s who ended up in tradgedy is so long it literally makes me sick just to think about it. Rusty Hammer of the old Danny Thomas show, Anissa Jones ( Buffy of "Buffy & Jody fame"), Dana Plato just to name a very few of many I could list whose lives ended up in the sewer or worse ( dead). There should be some kind of regulations and strict oversight for child/teen actors. Because way too many times it seems that many of these child prodigies end up with their lives destroyed before they are ever even old enough to vote.
Even kids that they use in TV commercials or early music sensations like David Cassidy all seem to have horror stories to tell. Take Tatum O'Neal for instance>> had her own dad beat her because she won an academy award that he wanted for himself ( i.e. Paper Moon fame). It's truly criminal how kids have been treated in the acting field and you can go all the way back to Shirley Temple too.
