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New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:16 pm
by polyhexamethyl
(europe) gets better and better...

http://knifenews.com/london-mayor-intro ... -searches/

awesome! something really is wrong with some people :(

let’s see how long it takes other politicians take notice what’s possible - let’s ban screwdrivers as well ...

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:25 pm
by JaseRicco
Don’t get me started on this type of backwards thinking.

Ban guns, you can kill with knives, ban knives you can kill with any tools you can get your hands on. What is going on with this world?!?!

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:53 pm
by Ruudr
Hopefully this stupid thinking won’t blow towards the Netherlands. We have pretty relaxed knife laws here.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:16 pm
by polyhexamethyl
same back here in austria, but the news are picking up on knife incidents and some people already are talking about a ban of knives 0_0

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:20 pm
by 500Nitro
polyhexamethyl wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:16 pm
same back here in austria, but the news are picking up on knife incidents and some people already are talking about a ban of knives 0_0
Surprised the EU hasn't jumped on this bandwagon years ago.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:30 pm
by polyhexamethyl
knock on wood - strangely the knife laws all over europe are different.
i’m not complaining since in my country there’s pretty much everything allowed - only punch daggers and disguised knives are restricted.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:08 pm
by twinboysdad
I'd tell London's mayor he can stop and frisk...deez nuts. Why do I bet the refugees won't be stopped or frisked very often??

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:16 pm
by twinboysdad
Is this the mayor that is the first Muslim mayor of London?

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:18 pm
by 500Nitro
polyhexamethyl wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:30 pm
knock on wood - strangely the knife laws all over europe are different.
Have we found one thing that the EU hasn't screwed up ?

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm
by polyhexamethyl
haha, there are a couple things!

the problem with this and a lot of other restrictive laws are the media and topic uninformed public combined with any politician (no matter what orientation)
the media picks up something and forces politician to do something specific about this very particular topic - and then untoughtful ridiculous laws get passed - ( statistics say most knife related incidents are involving kitchen knives)
in austria you are forbidden to buy a pump action shotgun, but you’re fine picking up a semiautomatic shotgun because back in the 80ies i think there were pump action related robberies - media picked up the topic and the public forced politicians to do something
there you have it!

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:42 pm
by Volk
There is a noticeable tendency to apply new restrictions in the name of "safety", especially here in Europe. I think that politicians could at least put some more effort into it, I mean, this is just plain nonsense:

"No excuses: there is never a reason to carry a knife."

And this is something that should not happen in a civilized country:

These patrols used aggressive stop and frisk procedures on anyone suspected of carrying a knife.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:45 pm
by polyhexamethyl
Volk wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:42 pm
There is a noticeable tendency to apply new restrictions in the name of "safety", especially here in Europe. I think that politicians could at least put some more effort into it, I mean, this is just plain nonsense:

"No excuses: there is never a reason to carry a knife."

And this is something that should not happen in a civilized country:

These patrols used aggressive stop and frisk procedures on anyone suspected of carrying a knife.

agreed - totally!

if you get stopped by police here in austria you give them a probable cause why you are carrying a knife.

but if you just plain ask them if they ever saw a roll with a zipper did it every time i got stopped by police - usually answered with a smile by the officer

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:51 pm
by Daveho
I feel like there are infact many reasons to carry a knife..
There is plenty of space here in the colonies for you lot.
That said I’m not sure what knife crime is like over there but if it is indeed as serious as it’s been portrayed then perhaps it’s for the best untill they figure out a better option

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:55 pm
by kingston73
“Aggressive stop and frisk” sounds a lot like profiling based on looks, which seems like a really bad idea. What does a person who carries a knife look like? How does the mayor feel about bricks? Hammers? Pipe wrenches? Really, I feel very sorry for people in London and sometimes wonder how much longer we have here in the states before things get to that point.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:57 pm
by Daveho
kingston73 wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:55 pm
“Aggressive stop and frisk” sounds a lot like profiling based on looks, which seems like a really bad idea. What does a person who carries a knife look like? How does the mayor feel about bricks? Hammers? Pipe wrenches? Really, I feel very sorry for people in London and sometimes wonder how much longer we have here in the states before things get to that point.
Look at how the firearm discussion is going, I’d say your knives are safe for a while.. unless you install a bump stock on your knife...

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 pm
by Jazz
I'm sorry for you. I'm starting to feel it too.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:09 pm
by polyhexamethyl
Jazz wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:58 pm
I'm sorry for you. I'm starting to feel it too.
yeah canada is going an even crazier slope
a city i can leave
but banning knives getting imported to the whole country is really a bad move!

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:16 pm
by tonijedi
So what is the law on knives exactly in London?

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:18 pm
by Donut
I'm glad that I live in an area that has a lot of money behind protecting freedom.

Why don't they just ban kitchen knives? Aren't most of these crimes done with a kitchen knife? The politicians making the rules and the LEO's following the rules probably don't even know what they're looking for.

Re: New knife law hits london

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:26 pm
by polyhexamethyl
tonijedi wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:16 pm
So what is the law on knives exactly in London?

UK : https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

i consider these crazy enough already!

there isn’t anything official about the specific london restrictions yet -

that’s the tweet with the mayors quote https://mobile.twitter.com/MayorofLondo ... 6334668800