A 2016 interview with one of Open Society’s grantees, Marlon Peterson, provides an idea of Open Society’s current position on the Second Amendment. Peterson said that NRA and the “firearms industrial complex” had, “bastardized the Second Amendment for capital gain at the expense of thousands of American lives every year.” The grantee went on to add, “This nation needs to be bold enough to reconsider our relationship to the Second Amendment.”
I can tell you he's been pretty successful in California.
A 2016 interview with one of Open Society’s grantees, Marlon Peterson, provides an idea of Open Society’s current position on the Second Amendment. Peterson said that NRA and the “firearms industrial complex” had, “bastardized the Second Amendment for capital gain at the expense of thousands of American lives every year.” The grantee went on to add, “This nation needs to be bold enough to reconsider our relationship to the Second Amendment.”
I can tell you he's been pretty successful in California.
He is against nations. He has a political organization that he pumps many billions of dollars into every year to undermine sovereign nations. His latest target is England and Brexit. He is a political progressive and against everything we hold dear...Oh, and do not think about having a means to defend yourself or to be self sufficient.
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Follow the Christ, the King,
Live pure, speak true, right wrong, follow the King--
Else, wherefore born?" (Tennyson)
Did you ever get an opportunity to work cyber crime during your career ?
Nope, but I have been a victim though. :) My credit union usually catches them before it gets bad. They know anytime I'm in Amsterdam buying car loads of Star wars stuff something is fishy. :o
No, I was left far behind and by the time I had time to learn enough to be useful there were already others in those positions and I was nearing retirement. My other employer had an outside contractor working with an extra manager who needed more to do to justify her position so I did almost everything but that.
Working on running that forum showed me just how much I was needing to learn as I was playing catch up with people who were programming by day and rampaging through cyberspace at night. I kept up with new weaknesses and hacks more from the hackers boards than from the guy who ran our servers and was supposed to be an expert. At that time I had two other jobs so the time I had to spend was pretty limited. I'm always up for learning new things but when time is limited one can only prioritize.
That company eventually decided there was more money in webcam porn type stuff so I didn't stay. :)
f I was a anti-gun/anti-knife organization, well funded by a major political party not above using questionable tactics to achieve their goals, it wouldn't be unreasonable to attack gun and knife forums on the internet in various creative ways to encourage fans to not participate in discussion and social organization.
Long time Shunsui. :) Good to see you here.
Many websites with survival, militia, out doors and weapons forums have been dealing with the dedicated trolls for over a decade. I was dealing with them when running a website back in the 90's. They were indeed people on a mission but I never got the impression I was dealing with people paid to disrupt. Those guys give themselves away by always attempting to broadcast the narrative of the day. The same one that was playing on the nightly news. The ones I dealt with were passionate about their role and seemed intelligent but also obsessed. I've said before they were people who had way too much time on their hands and swore to our faces they were going to close us down. Often at 2:00 in the morning. :) when I was trying to log off and get some sleep. Nothing was off limits to them. One's MO was to make friends with new members and he/she would talk them into receiving wave/sound files or other stuff containing a trojan horse. They would then not destroy the persons files or anything but would make it obvious they were there by opening and closing files, etc right in front of the person. When the person got online and talked to their new friend all shook up and the troll would tell them that the forum owners/admins were doing it for whatever nefarious purposes they thought believable. That person would then leave to hopefully by word of mouth tell others about the bad guys running the place ( My brother and me. I know it wasn't us).
There were lots of other tricks including posting porn images, and even worse than that... . There were two university's the IP's these people originated at. Always trunk users with different IP's every time they logged on. Most of the code they used was just cut and paste stuff available on script kiddie pages but it got annoying. They even demonstrated to me that they could spoof an admin. I watched them post as me saying " ****(me the admin) says : See what I can do!" .
It was just "look at me I'm smart" type stuff but it did make a lot more work for us.
Joe
Wow, that’s hard to believe. I’m not saying I don’t believe it, I just find it astounding that people can get so obsessed with their own point of view that they will go to such extremes to impose it upon others. I’m simply too lazy for that. “Live and let live” is a lot less work!
Ideological zealots of all stripes can be extremely dangerous and fanatical. The last century's body count of a hundred million should prove their dedication to converting or killing you.
Overheard at the end of the ice age, “We’ve been having such unnatural weather.”
Lance, I grew up with the "live and let live" philosophy but quickly learned a lot of people don't . I can't say I've ever hated anyone. On the other hand it's easy to see some people seem to like hating things. Maybe it keeps them warm, or makes them feel powerful or something. I've got other things to do though. Life is too short as it is to waste it.
Ideological zealots of all stripes can be extremely dangerous and fanatical. The last century's body count of a hundred million should prove their dedication to converting or killing you.
It's true. It pays to remember the mistakes of the past but it seems the history taught now often is busy teaching other lessons so we will end up making some of the same mistakes. My sons generation or his kids will find that out.
I think some of them may have learned, but the 60's was a very bad time for this Country to say the least.
IMO they did more harm in the last 15 years than they did in the 60's. We even had a communist in charge of the CIA. There were a few cabinet members in the last administration ( the most corrupt in my lifetime) that were communists. The last president was strongly influenced by leftists including one terrorist ( neighbor and ghost writer of biography) who was in a group in the 60's that was given help ( training and finance ) from the Soviet Union. ( they expected to have to kill over 40 million Americans to bring around true paradise according to his statements) That same leftist desire for revolution brought on the administrations footprint in how many places ( Egypt, Libya,Syria etc., ) bringing down stable ( not great but not huge supporters of radical terror) governments and replacing them with terrorist groups who began cleansing their country of Christians and other groups. That administration made America for a short time the largest monetary supporter of terrorism in the world ( money to Iran). A place he had refused to help a real revolution because he didn't like the idea of overthrowing one of the greatest enemies of western civilization.
Then there are the Clintons. :)
I can go on and on. I only hit the tip of that iceberg. Many don't believe it. All is available to anyone wanting to do the reading.
I think some of them may have learned, but the 60's was a very bad time for this Country to say the least.
IMO they did more harm in the last 15 years than they did in the 60's. We even had a communist in charge of the CIA. There were a few cabinet members in the last administration ( the most corrupt in my lifetime) that were communists. The last president was strongly influenced by leftists including one terrorist ( neighbor and ghost writer of biography) who was in a group in the 60's that was given help ( training and finance ) from the Soviet Union. ( they expected to have to kill over 40 million Americans to bring around true paradise according to his statements) That same leftist desire for revolution brought on the administrations footprint in how many places ( Egypt, Libya,Syria etc., ) bringing down stable ( not great but not huge supporters of radical terror) governments and replacing them with terrorist groups who began cleansing their country of Christians and other groups. That administration made America for a short time the largest monetary supporter of terrorism in the world ( money to Iran). A place he had refused to help a real revolution because he didn't like the idea of overthrowing one of the greatest enemies of western civilization.
Then there are the Clintons. :)
I can go on and on. I only hit the tip of that iceberg. Many don't believe it. All is available to anyone wanting to do the reading.
Joe
Well we had a Communist running for POTUS in the last election, luckily she didn't win.
Not to mention the Democratic party has for the most part become Communist in general along with the new generations.
I think we are in real trouble.
If I was Trump I would declare Martial Law and clean house getting rid of them all then holding Elections to replace the Communists that are currently in office. Then and fix the school system getting rid of all of them, way too many of them in the system. Then once all of that was done and fixed let the Government have it back.
If I was Trump I would declare Martial Law and clean house getting rid of them all then holding Elections to replace the Communists that are currently in office.
I hope that isn't needed. :) The real problem will be when someone decides they don't want to take the chance of losing the next election. That is when things will get interesting. That is how it began in Venezuela. Always turns out great eh?
Between Correct the Record, ShareBlue, Democrat Underground trolls and just your run of the mill shill/disinformation individuals it is a wonder any free speech remains... Either on the public street corner or on the web. It's amazing to see these types turn a internet forum devoted to "whatever" into a raging bowl of hate with everyone at each others throat with just a few misleading posts.
I admin/moderate on some firearms forums and have seen chaos break out, these types play just inside the rules/code of conduct and bait outstanding members into losing their privileges or outright bans. Folks have to be educated not to take the bait and just report them, once they troll enough to establish a pattern of behavior then mods can swing the ban hammer.
Say anything against the current agendas and see what happens at work, in public etc.
The year before last in a private conversation with a Petty Officer on the Naval Base I work on I said "Get the fat retard to drive the forklift". This was overheard by a female coworker with big ears who was gravely offended at my 'inappropriate language'.
The 'fat retard' is a mate of mine as is the Petty Officer and neither could believe what followed.
Long story short, I was stood down for four days while HR conducted an 'investigation'. I was given a first and final warning after sixteen years service without incident and made to see a physiatrist or whatever she was for three one hour sessions and I had to meet with my line manager once a fortnight for three months to discuss my progress.
True as I type!
We can't say Merry Christmas in our own Christian country because we may upset the heathens. :eek:
A day without laughter is a day wasted. ~ Charlie Chaplin
Say anything against the current agendas and see what happens at work, in public etc.
The year before last in a private conversation with a Petty Officer on the Naval Base I work on I said "Get the fat retard to drive the forklift". This was overheard by a female coworker with big ears who was gravely offended at my 'inappropriate language'.
The 'fat retard' is a mate of mine as is the Petty Officer and neither could believe what followed.
Long story short, I was stood down for four days while HR conducted an 'investigation'. I was given a first and final warning after sixteen years service without incident and made to see a physiatrist or whatever she was for three one hour sessions and I had to meet with my line manager once a fortnight for three months to discuss my progress.
True as I type!
We can't say Merry Christmas in our own Christian country because we may upset the heathens. :eek:
That's just mad. Banter between mates is distinguishable from abuse & bullying. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for careful language, and then some, but you've got to be able to take the piss out of your mates.
ChrisinHove wrote:That's just mad. Banter between mates is distinguishable from abuse & bullying. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for careful language, and then some, but you've got to be able to take the piss out of your mates.
We've lost the plot. :rolleyes:
A day without laughter is a day wasted. ~ Charlie Chaplin
Say anything against the current agendas and see what happens at work, in public etc.
The year before last in a private conversation with a Petty Officer on the Naval Base I work on I said "Get the fat retard to drive the forklift". This was overheard by a female coworker with big ears who was gravely offended at my 'inappropriate language'.
The 'fat retard' is a mate of mine as is the Petty Officer and neither could believe what followed.
Long story short, I was stood down for four days while HR conducted an 'investigation'. I was given a first and final warning after sixteen years service without incident and made to see a physiatrist or whatever she was for three one hour sessions and I had to meet with my line manager once a fortnight for three months to discuss my progress.
True as I type!
We can't say Merry Christmas in our own Christian country because we may upset the heathens. :eek:
Bloke, I thought you were in Australia, not in America. It is the same in the USA because we are so PC that we cannot even talk to one another, any longer. It started to get this way under the President who "did not inhale" and got worse under the last President (whom most still do not understand his philosophical ideology).
I Pray Heaven to Bestow The Best of Blessing on THIS HOUSE, and on ALL that shall hereafter Inhabit it. May none but Honest and Wise Men ever rule under This Roof! (John Adams regarding the White House)
Follow the Christ, the King,
Live pure, speak true, right wrong, follow the King--
Else, wherefore born?" (Tennyson)
