More NY insanity....

[OldHoosier62]

Yep, because it makes more sense to criminalize an object than aggressively arrest and prosecute the violent criminals misusing them.Idiots.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04 ... ire-state/

[SpyderNut]

Wow... And that's one reason I steer clear of visiting such places.

[awa54]

Is that just in NYC or the whole state?!?

Baseball bats are "deadly weapons" too, what are they gonna do about that ?

ridiculous... *maybe* they could pitch this idea if NY had statistics showing that there was a huge increase in machete related murders or assaults, but I'm assuming that no such data exists (if the New Yorkers are going berzerk on each other with machetes, we certainly aren't hearing about it here in VT!) and even if it did, penalizing people who want to clear brush by forcing them to use less appropriate tools or become law breakers is preposterous.

Idiots is a kind way to put it.

[OldHoosier62]

Is that just in NYC or the whole state?!?

Baseball bats are "deadly weapons" too, what are they gonna do about that ?

ridiculous... *maybe* they could pitch this idea if NY had statistics showing that there was a huge increase in machete related murders or assaults, but I'm assuming that no such data exists (if the New Yorkers are going berzerk on each other with machetes, we certainly aren't hearing about it here in VT!) and even if it did, penalizing people who want to clear brush by forcing them to use less appropriate tools or become law breakers is preposterous.

Idiots is a kind way to put it.

Whole state according to the article. The idiocy of that state never ceases to amaze me. Turning normal, law abiding citizens into instant criminals with ignorant and ill advised legislation every time you turn around. You'd think the folks living there would throw those morons out of the legislature.

[The Deacon]

I am not a lawyer and have never been one, but my read of the bill, and the sections of the NYS Penal Law that it modifies leads me to believe that it only makes it illegal to possess a machete "with intent to use the same unlawfully against another". If my read is correct, then it's unnecessary, but not restrictive since the current "or any other dangerous or deadly instrument or weapon" portion of 265.01 (2) should cover them.

[TomAiello]

Axes, next?

[awa54]

Axes, next?

I hear electric roast carving knives are a big threat, or was it garden hoes? Either way it's time to outlaw all those deadly weapons!

[Doc Dan]

Toasters. They should outlaw toasters, next. A toaster can be tossed into a bathtub and kill somebody, or be swung by the cord as an illegal mace.

[Miss Dragonfly]

I saw "NY" in the title here, so here I am. :) I think that point about legal interpretation made so much sense, but I'm no lawyer either. :) And NY state is not so bad. NYC is fun! The knife laws, in my very limited research and experience, seem over the top in NYC. That is true. But upstate NY, relax, it's no big thing. :cool:

In NYC I think it's sort of a population per square mile situation kinda deal. And I'm actually ok with the machete law, if I'm understanding it correctly. What I mean is, if I see a guy upstate by my local train station and he's holding a machete, I'm kinda psyched. I'm thinking... Dude is about to take out that overgrown patch along the fence and clean up the neighborhood. Cool, love that guy! I see the same guy with a machete by the 6 train, a NYC subway line, I'm thinking...Dude, not cool, he may be about to take out some innocent straphanger waiting on the platform! Get ready to pull off heels and run! :eek: Am I so crazy? :confused:

Visit NYC you'll love it! Has EVERYTHING!!! Just leave your trusty knife :spyder: at home!

[SG89]

I am not a lawyer and have never been one, but my read of the bill, and the sections of the NYS Penal Law that it modifies leads me to believe that it only makes it illegal to possess a machete "with intent to use the same unlawfully against another". If my read is correct, then it's unnecessary, but not restrictive since the current "or any other dangerous or deadly instrument or weapon" portion of 265.01 (2) should cover them.

This is how I understood it as well.

[curlyhairedboy]

one of the world's oldest and most useful tools. oops, better ban it...

[TomAiello]

If using it to harm another person (i.e. committing assault) is already a felony, what's the point in creating an additional law to criminalize it?

[SG89]

If using it to harm another person (i.e. committing assault) is already a felony, what's the point in creating an additional law to criminalize it?

Looks good to their constituents that they are tough on 'deadly weapons'. Just part of the political game. Make the people think you're doing something...

[Monocrom]

Yes, I live in a retarded state. Looks like I'll be stocking up on long-bladed Bowie knives very soon as those aren't "machetes." :rolleyes:

[Dr. Snubnose]

Yes, I live in a retarded state. Looks like I'm be stocking up on long-bladed Bowie knives very soon as those aren't "machetes." :rolleyes:

Already Done that!!!!...Doc:)

[Bigman]

How did any of us ever get by without the moronic do gooders (AKA so-called leadership) saving us from ourselves with their goofy laws to protect us all??

[Monocrom]

Yes, I live in a retarded state. Looks like I'm be stocking up on long-bladed Bowie knives very soon as those aren't "machetes." :rolleyes:

Already Done that!!!!...Doc:)

Not a fan of the man..... but I expect sales of Cold Steel Spetsnaz shovels to increase dramatically as well. ****, I'll likely be getting one in the not too distant future too. :mad:

[Monocrom]

How did any of us ever get by without the moronic do gooders (AKA so-called leadership) saving us from ourselves with their goofy laws to protect us all??

If it wasn't for the First Amendment, they'd have banned Free Speech as well because.... Having a dissenting opinion hurts other peoples' feelings. Therefore, Free Speech is dangerous because it inflicts "grave emotional harm" and is "emotional abuse."

(Yes, I can fake thinking like a brain-damaged psychotic lunatic who decided to make politics a career. That as a career choice. Perfect example of blatant deranged insanity right there.)

[The Deacon]

Unfortunately Cold Steel seems to call a LOT of things machetes that aren't machetes.

The interesting thing is that the new additions to the Penal Code don't include a definition of the term machete.

How did any of us ever get by without the moronic do gooders (AKA so-called leadership) saving us from ourselves with their goofy laws to protect us all??

If it wasn't for the First Amendment, they'd have banned Free Speech as well because.... Having a dissenting opinion hurts other peoples' feelings. Therefore, Free Speech is dangerous because it inflicts "grave emotional harm" and is "emotional abuse."

(Yes, I can fake thinking like a brain-damaged psychotic lunatic who decided to make politics a career. That as a career choice. Perfect example of blatant deranged insanity right there.)

Most definitely. A year or two back, in a conversation with Susan Arbetter on “The Capitol Pressroom” New York governor Andrew Cuomo commented that “conservative Republicans … have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

[palonej]

I grew up in NYC.....1960 - 2000. I'll bet anything with each of these laws passed most people, read Sheeple, there are throwing a party!! They truly believe once all those terrible weapons are made illegal they will be living in Utopia.
All this reminds me of the first thing Hitler & the Nazis did when coming into power......give us your weapons. You no longer need them as we will protect you. How'd that work out?
We are now in New Jersey.......don't even get me started!! Sling shots & BB guns will land you in a steaming heap!
Joe