Do you believe?

JNewell · #21

eric m. wrote:My verdict is already in! :)

Unfortunately, your verdict, like mine, doesn't count.

remnar · #22

Monocrom wrote:No secret that the Earth has been going through cycles of hot & cold for centuries. ****, even longer. Most important part... Long before the Industrial Revolution took place. So, once again, it's BS that mankind is the cause of climate change. ****, it used to be global warming. Meanwhile anyone doing a bit of research would see that many of the older leaders of the global warming movement during the 1990s were around during the 1970s. Difference is, back then they were screaming about how the Earth was getting colder and we were due for a 2nd Ice Age unless we did something immediately!

Nowadays they figured they might as well cover all their bases. Call it climate change. Don't pick one temperature extreme after another. If the Planet won't cooperate with the hidden political agenda you're trying to push, change it to a term where you can pretend it does. Nice how that works.

klug932000 · #23

My outside digital thermometer broke, not that it was a good one but still cold enough to wreck it.

xceptnl · #24

Pockets wrote:7 degrees Fahrenheit.
What movie is that?

:p

razorsharp · #25

24c here :p

Brock O Lee · #26

Mostly sunny and around 28-34 'C in Pretoria, with the odd thunderstorm in the afternoons... :)

eric m. · #27

remnar wrote:

Beautiful! Thanks for that Remnar! Just because, "The Majority of Scientists Believe" in anything doesn't make it FACT! I guess the earth is still flat too! :)

kbuzbee · #28

phillipsted wrote:
BTW - The Arctic Circle called and it wants it's Polar Vortex back.

It can have the danged thing!

Monocrom wrote:No secret that the Earth has been going through cycles of hot & cold for centuries. ****, even longer.

Nope... **** is hot. Always has been

No cold cycles there, brother.

Ken

The Deacon · #29

remnar wrote:

Proving once again that you can't believe everything you find on the web. I'm sure Time has made it's share of mistakes over the years, but as much as I'd like to believe this was one of them, that "Hot to Survive the Coming Ice Age" cover is a hoax.

4 s ter · #30

It's been a cold and snowy winter so far. After a number of mild winters, this one is like the ones I remember a a kid (50+ years ago). In Northern Ontario, a little warming isn't such a bad idea

jabba359 · #31

Oh, I thought you were talking about aliens...

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JNewell · #32

I read on the internet that the dinosaurs didn't believe in asteroids.

eric m. · #33

There are actually many scientists that do not believe in "global warming", but they are minimized because they do not follow the mainstream!

Doc Dan · #34

A little something from my part of the world to warm you up.
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eric m. · #35

Doc Dan wrote:A little something from my part of the world to warm you up.
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Wow! What a tease you are! Wish I was there!!! :)

remnar · #36

The Deacon wrote:Proving once again that you can't believe everything you find on the web. I'm sure Time has made it's share of mistakes over the years, but as much as I'd like to believe this was one of them, that "Hot to Survive the Coming Ice Age" cover is a hoax.

The internet lies? Well I guess in this case it does, but I was very much alive in the 70's and there were many articles published by Time and Newsweek about a possible coming ice age. I remember reading them and seeing news stories on television about the subject. The argument that is being made now is that there was no consensus back then about climate change, but now we've done our research and now some 90%+ of the scientific community agree on the subject of "climate change". I do not know where the 90 some percent statistic comes from and I do not know what is meant by "climate change". Of course the climate is changing, but when you use flawed models with cherry picked data to "prove" a theory, while shouting the sky is falling, and while setting up companies and passing regulations that will make you and your friends wealthier, there is no wonder why some might question your science and/or your motives. I am not a denier, but I'm not a believer either because I don't think the scientists today are much more knowledgeable than they were 40 years ago and in many of the studies that I've looked at they either leave out or again skew data related to the one thing that has the largest impact on our planets temperature. (Rant over, I'm done) :)

Pinetreebbs · #37

What with the population bomb and drowning in trash, I don't worry about the weather, but I do collect Spyderco knives.

The Deacon · #38

Pinetreebbs wrote:What with the population bomb and drowning in trash, I don't worry about the weather, but I do collect Spyderco knives.

That's the key for me too. IF man is the major cause of climate change, the only logical solution is the one that's unthinkable - reduce the human population by 50% worldwide with the next 5 years. Everything else is either a feel good palliatives, pie in the sky speculation, or an attempt to promote some company's, industry's, or politician's agenda. War may be good business, but fear is an even better one. IF we're not the cause, we're still screwed as a species because we'll soon breed to the point where even the most perfect climate will not be able to provide sufficient food and water for everyone.

Pinetreebbs · #39

The Deacon wrote:That's the key for me too. IF man is the major cause of climate change, the only logical solution is the one that's unthinkable - reduce the human population by 50% worldwide with the next 5 years. Everything else is either a feel good palliatives, pie in the sky speculation, or an attempt to promote some company's, industry's, or politician's agenda. War may be good business, but fear is an even better one. IF we're not the cause, we're still screwed as a species because we'll soon breed to the point where even the most perfect climate will not be able to provide sufficient food and water for everyone.

Exactly. I'm banking on a deadly flu or antibiotic resistant bug to do the reduction.

eric m. · #40

remnar wrote:The internet lies? Well I guess in this case it does, but I was very much alive in the 70's and there were many articles published by Time and Newsweek about a possible coming ice age. I remember reading them and seeing news stories on television about the subject. The argument that is being made now is that there was no consensus back then about climate change, but now we've done our research and now some 90%+ of the scientific community agree on the subject of "climate change". I do not know where the 90 some percent statistic comes from and I do not know what is meant by "climate change". Of course the climate is changing, but when you use flawed models with cherry picked data to "prove" a theory, while shouting the sky is falling, and while setting up companies and passing regulations that will make you and your friends wealthier, there is no wonder why some might question your science and/or your motives. I am not a denier, but I'm not a believer either because I don't think the scientists today are much more knowledgeable than they were 40 years ago and in many of the studies that I've looked at they either leave out or again skew data related to the one thing that has the largest impact on our planets temperature. (Rant over, I'm done) :)

+10! Agree whole-heartedly! Solyndra Anyone! :)