That about sums it up. Superior tolerances are only part of the equation, especially considering that the tolerances of those other knives is far from poor.phillipsted wrote:I've handled the Sebenza dozens of time and have thought about buying one for years. I love the build quality and the work ethic these knives represent.
But, for me, it comes down to ergonomics. When I pick up the Sebenza, it just doesn't feel "right" in my hand. I can't really explain it.
I get a quite different feeling when I pick up a Sage 2, or a GB, or a Domino. They just seem to melt into my hand. The fact that I can buy all three of these Spydies for the price of a tricked-out Sebenza makes my purchase decision a no-contest.
Superior tolerances and superior service. My oldest is a 1996 small Regular that needed service, finally, a year ago. Came back better than new for about $5.Evil D wrote:That about sums it up. Superior tolerances are only part of the equation, especially considering that the tolerances of those other knives is far from poor.
It seems like the Taichung Spydercos in particular kind of push the envelope for what a buyer can expect for F&F at a price tag that's pretty low in comparison to other brands that have hung their hat on F&F and charge a premium for it. I look at my Sage 1 and the darn thing is practically flawless. I have a hard time understanding what I would get from a F&F standpoint with a Sebenza for example that would be that much more noticeable. That being said, I appreciate the design of a Sebenza and I think they are very beautiful. I would like to have one someday, but I don't think I'll be blown away by it after being pretty spoiled by Taichung. I do really want a 3" XM-18 slicer as well in the future, but not at ridiculous after-market prices. $400 for that seems pretty fair but 7, 8, 900? You gotta be joking me.SQSAR wrote:I got one (Large Insingo, plain handle) because the Sebenza is sort of a benchmark in folding knife quality. When I finally got it I was very much impressed with the reputed quality that preceded it. However, being accustomed to higher end Spydercos I must say it's not like the Sebenza is head and shoulders above say a Southard or Techno in terms of fit and finish; so, anyone thinking of buying a Sebenza for a knife that's on another level from the aforementioned higher end Spydercos don't expect a tremendous jump in quality and F&F, , it's just not there. This isn't to berate CRK so much as it is a testament to Spyderco.
As far as the design of the Sebenza goes, it's a great example of graceful utility. The blade is WAY thin behind the edge, causing me to be cautious about using it for really hard cutting tasks, but making it a go-to blade for lighter slicing chores. The other side of this edge-thickness coin would be a Hinderer XM-18 slicer-grind (my personal favorite folder of all time) that is a bit thick behind the edge and therefor not as good at some tasks as the Sebenza's thin edge might be. Point being, all these high end folders bring different aspects of blade design to the table that in turn make them better suited to some cutting tasks than others, but manufacturing quality is one aspect that transcends design features and is what (in my opinion) makes the knife world so interesting.
In my opinion, a serious knife enthusiast should have a Sebenza, Hinderer, and Strider in their collections just because they have risen above the rest on the merits of their design quality. Are they worth the extra coin than a good 'higher end' Spyderco, , , well that's been the subject of much debate.
Yeah, that is true, very true. However, with some other knife companies, the percentage you are at when you spend say $200 is much lower than with Spyderco.JNewell wrote:I think the Sebenzas are worth the premium, but you have to recognize that, as in every other area, the law of diminishing returns applies. Going from 0% to 85% might cost X. Going from 85% to 90% might cost 2x, and 90% t0 95% might cost 4x.
Very true, and even within the main Spyderco line there are variations. The PM2, and a couple of other Golden knives that I'm not remembering right now, have been consciously priced by Spyderco at lower margins, which makes them really attractive values on the cost-quality spectrum. I'd also say that quite a few of the Taichung knives are really good values. Other knifes, not so much (the Leafstorm comes to mind as one that I think is unexpectedly expensive).Syncharmony wrote:Yeah, that is true, very true. However, with some other knife companies, the percentage you are at when you spend say $200 is much lower than with Spyderco.
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