Is it right to carry knives in church?

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Is it right to carry knives in church?

Postby kbrouwer » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:23 am

I'm Catholic and go to church on Sundays. I'm actually an alter server. I usually take my knives out of my pockets and put them in my drawer before church. I'm not looking to get all into biblical philosophy and everything, just some yes's and no's. Do you think it's right to carry a knife in church?
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Postby PanChango » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:29 am

kbrouwer wrote:I'm Catholic and go to church on Sundays. I'm actually an alter server. I usually take my knives out of my pockets and put them in my drawer before church. I'm not looking to get all into biblical philosophy and everything, just some yes's and no's. Do you think it's right to carry a knife in church?
Yes.

While not a catholic church, my next door neighbor is a minister and he always has a traditional case in his pocket. He often has a small revolver on him as well.

This should probably be in the Off-Topic forum.

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Postby D1omedes » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:31 am

kbrouwer wrote:I'm Catholic and go to church on Sundays. I'm actually an alter server. I usually take my knives out of my pockets and put them in my drawer before church. I'm not looking to get all into biblical philosophy and everything, just some yes's and no's. Do you think it's right to carry a knife in church?
I see no problem with it, honestly. I am Greek Orthodox and do not feel like I am violating any sacrament or other law of the church when I carry a knife in my slacks. I usually just carry a Vic Cadet (due to its slim size) but I have also carried a Sage on Sundays, too. I feel it comes down to how you view and use your knife. For me, my knives are a tool first and weapon only as a last resort.

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Postby God'sMyJudge » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:41 am

D1omedes wrote:I feel it comes down to how you view and use your knife. For me, my knives are a tool first and weapon only as a last resort.
This. What do you use your knife for? I carry mine in church, just as I carry a pen in church; they are both tools that I use frequently. I wouldn't carry a weapon in church, although I have more than a few friends who do (and they even have special, usually beautifully designed, guns that they only take to church or weddings!!).

So it's how you feel about having a weapon in a sanctified place, and whether or not you consider your knife a weapon.

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Postby Mc556 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:41 am

I carry a M&P 9mm 4.25 and lately my Southard. ( pistol with the church's permission)
I think you just have to judge for yourself if its appropriate or not.

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Postby gbelleh » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:42 am

Sure, it's fine.
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Postby .357 mag » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:46 am

If I can legally carry I do.

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Postby JNewell » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:51 am

Honestly, the question never occurred to me. Turn it around, though: if it isn't right to carry a knife in church, why would it ever be right to carry one anywhere? I guess I don't expect different behavior from myself or others in church than anywhere else.

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Postby jackknifeh » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:13 am

There is ONLY ONE reason that it would be wrong to carry a normal size pocket knife in most Christian churches in the United States. Depending on the typical lifestyle of the community some hunting knives are ok too. Of course this depends on why you go to church. The only reason I think it would be wrong is if there was a biblical scripture something like "It is wrong to carry a pocket knife during church survices". If the bible (God) doesn't say there is anything is wrong with it he probably doesn't care. I assume you are concerned with God's opinion and not other people. But, I'm sure you don't want to upset anyone by doing something so easily lived without.

There is a story in the new testament where I think Jesus "purged", "cleansed" all meats making it ok to eat the meats that were unlawful to eat by old testament laws. But, Paul (I think) goes on to say that even though Jesus cleansed the food, making it ok to eat it, if there is someone who doesn't know this and sees you eat some he will think you were sinning intentionally and you shouldn't do that. Your example is more important than the food. Therefore educate the guy, then eat the steak.

If you (anyone) hasn't noticed the bible seems to say a lot of things but then covers the subject with "but if's". That is why it's not a good idea to discuss this stuff on inet groups. It may start a digital holy war. :) I can enjoy these discussions but some get MAD if you don't agree with them. :)

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Postby JNewell » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:44 am

Yes, the :) is key! :spyder:

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Postby Steffen » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:08 pm

i have been to church 4 times since june 2000, and i believe i carried a pocket knife on all the occations.

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Postby Blerv » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:11 pm

It depends on your church and who becomes offended. There isn't any scripture to support or refute it but that won't stop a zealot on a mission to make someone's life difficult.

I wouldn't bring it up much. The potential downfall FAR outweighs the chance of cutlery camaraderie.
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Postby Halfneck » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:21 pm

Ever hear the phrase "Church-going knife"? Just like you dress up nicer for church, the same goes for your knife. Instead of carrying an Endura or Manix you swap them out for a fancy handled Kopa or maybe the Damascus Delica. While there are no rules stating what a Church-going knife is, I always took it to be a bit smaller & prettier to look at than your normal EDC knife.

Catholic here too, and as an Altar Boy in my younger days I always had an old Case or Schrade slipjoint in my pocket. As an adult now, married to a Methodist (Catholic-lite :) ) I have carried Spydercos, Kershaws, and various other knives when I do go to church.
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Postby Jazz » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:26 pm

Why whatsoever would it be wrong?
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Postby Holland » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:27 pm

ive only been to church 3 times in my life (2 funerals and a baptist ceremony) so im not speaking by experience, but lots of people use the term "church knife" so i would assume it isnt a problem. Maybe if it bothers you, you shouldn't
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Postby rwasham » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:28 pm

I carry to mass all the time....I carry everyday. I only don't carry if I've been asked not to....there's a sign....or I have to pass through a metal detector. Knife = life....rinse and repeat.
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Postby chukar8 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:30 pm

Depends on what the intent is in carrying? If your knife is a tool then I would say sure, if it is carried as a weapon then it would seem to me to be inappropriate. JMO

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Postby The Deacon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:34 pm

Blerv wrote:It depends on your church and who becomes offended. There isn't any scripture to support or refute it but that won't stop a zealot on a mission to make someone's life difficult.

I wouldn't bring it up much. The potential downfall FAR outweighs the chance of cutlery camaraderie.
Some would say Luke 22:36 supports it.
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Postby chukar8 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:59 pm

The Deacon wrote:Some would say Luke 22:36 supports it.
Good one
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Postby Peter1960 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:04 pm

Paul, there is also Luke 22:38 ... ;)
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