So, a real knife could have saved a few lives

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So, a real knife could have saved a few lives

Postby jzmtl » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:17 am

Background story, Ex white supremacist leader and army veteran shot up a Sikh temple, 6 dead.
His community under attack, Sikh Temple of Wisconsin president Satwant Singh Kaleka fought back with all his strength and a simple butter knife, trying to stab a murderous gunman before taking two fatal gunshots to the leg.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012 ... eroes.html

Not sure how useful it would have been, but a real knife would work a lot better than a butter knife.

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Postby jnsn » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:20 am

probably gonna go with the user here, i could do some damage with a butter knife in the life or death situation. jmo, though.
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Postby Dench » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:09 pm

No, another gun could have saved a few lives.

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Postby SpyderNut » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:08 pm

Very sad indeed...
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Postby Monocrom » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:46 am

Dench wrote:No, another gun could have saved a few lives.
We don't have a "like" button. So . . . +1 on that.
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Postby The Deacon » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:41 am

I'm confused, which is not all that unusual before my first cup of coffee, but aren't all Sihk males required by their religion to carry a specific type of knife called a Kirpan pretty much all the time?
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Postby Piet.S » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:59 am

That's right Paul, but it seems to be more ceremonial nowadays than a weapon.
In this case it prooved better than nothing though.
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Postby Echo63 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:15 am

The Deacon wrote:I'm confused, which is not all that unusual before my first cup of coffee, but aren't all Sihk males required by their religion to carry a specific type of knife called a Kirpan pretty much all the time?
Yes, but a kirpan tattoo (done with a high iron content ink) is done a lot more frequently these days
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Postby Rwb1500 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:00 pm

Monocrom wrote:We don't have a "like" button. So . . . +1 on that.
Make it +2.

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Postby Rwb1500 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:01 pm

Monocrom wrote:We don't have a "like" button. So . . . +1 on that.
Make it +2.

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Postby jzmtl » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:10 pm

The Deacon wrote:I'm confused, which is not all that unusual before my first cup of coffee, but aren't all Sihk males required by their religion to carry a specific type of knife called a Kirpan pretty much all the time?
Many are either permanently fixed into the sheath or not sharpened to comply with local laws, and not all Sikhs carry kirpans.
Dench wrote:No, another gun could have saved a few lives.
So you are saying stabbing the gun man with a sharp knife instead of a butter knife would have no effect?

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Postby Truckie453 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:49 pm

Maybe he means, Never bring a knife to a gun fight...

RIP to the victims.
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So you are saying stabbing the gun man with a sharp knife instead of a butter knife would have no effect?
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Postby The Deacon » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:26 am

Like all these incidents, the "shoulda, coulda, woulda" type second guessing does absolutely no good and, in some cases insults the memory of those who died.
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