Dr. Snubnose wrote:
Ok...lets step it up a notch a bit....What grip will you be using for your thrusts....Forward Grip for power....Reverse Grip Blade Facing Out, which gives you a weak slashing ability as you kinda push your opponent away from you using this type of slash.....Blade facing in...where you get a good depth on the stab and slash your way out, drawing your opponent into you...but you have to be much closer to your opponent for it to be effective...and lets ask the question...which is right for a folder?....when you stab in normal reverse grip, the angle at which your arm moves, no matter what angle of attack you are using, is an arcing motion... and the way this hits the target, it puts a TON of pressure on the back of the blade, which can cause even the best lock to fail, now flip the knife over, and all that pressure is being put onto the stop pin, and against the edge... safer , and makes a better wound. Wth a fixed blade, the same is true, except the fixed blade cant fold up on you, but you can still get better wounds with a simple in/out stab, because of that arcing movement pressing the edge against the side of the wound, widening it....So what do you think?.....Doc
I'll have to disagree on a couple of things here. First of all, anyone who has studied a good silat system taught by a competent instructor will be able to use the same body mechanics which power the devastatingly powerful elbow strikes which are hallmarks of good silat to power the reverse grip, edge out cuts. Rather than a "weak slashing ability" one gets very powerful cuts, if the correct methodology is used. I've demonstrated this a time or two in photos for magazine articles, videos, and a few more interesting places. I wrote a whole magazine article on the relationship between reverse grip edge out and elbow strikes in the Albo Kali Silat system. Black Belt magazine accepted the article, but went through a format change and I was told that the article will be published "sometime in the future." As for the reverse grip, edge out cut or slash pushing a target away anymore than a standard, forward or hammer grip slash or cut, I don't see it. The edge is drawn down a target, and with the methodologies I use, the targets that are cut are not pushed any further away than targets cut with a forward grip.
As for not being able to thrust in a straight line in an edge out reverse grip, once again, I'll have to disagree. With proper technique, a bit of wrist articulation, and the three-dimensional rotation of elbow and shoulder joints to provide a bit of power, the arc of elbow and shoulder manipulation does not affect the ability to thrust straight into and retract out of a target, providing the target is not at the absolute limit of effective attack range. I will also say that I have seen many shall we say "technique challenged" individuals use the pakal edge in grip with incorrect body mechanics and put what would be "closing pressure" in a folding knife. With correct training and practice, pakal edge in does not put a lot of closing pressure on a folder, if everything goes right. Based on real world experience in multiple confrontations in my several years of law enforcement, things seldom go right
. Thrusting with a folder, using coring motions, etc. can all put a lot of pressure on a lock. I recommend that those who carry a folder for defensive purposes honestly assess their skill and level of training, determine how they would put this training and skill to use in a real situation, and determine what lock strength is required for them and what knives fit their "personal usage profile." As for me, I have several different folders that I use and trust, most of them Spydercos, a Cold Steel Espada, an Emerson or two, etc. However, the older I get, the more time I spend either grabbing bad guys or trying to clean up what is left in the aftermath of an attack by the aforementioned evil street goblins, and the more I pressure test my system and spar and train with my students, the more I think that the best knife for most to carry for serious social purposes is a fixed blade.