Doc,Dr. Snubnose wrote:Ok...lets step it up a notch a bit....What grip will you be using for your thrusts....Forward Grip for power....Reverse Grip Blade Facing Out, which gives you a weak slashing ability as you kinda push your opponent away from you using this type of slash.....Blade facing in...where you get a good depth on the stab and slash your way out, drawing your opponent into you...but you have to be much closer to your opponent for it to be effective...and lets ask the question...which is right for a folder?....when you stab in normal reverse grip, the angle at which your arm moves, no matter what angle of attack you are using, is an arcing motion... and the way this hits the target, it puts a TON of pressure on the back of the blade, which can cause even the best lock to fail, now flip the knife over, and all that pressure is being put onto the stop pin, and against the edge... safer , and makes a better wound. Wth a fixed blade, the same is true, except the fixed blade cant fold up on you, but you can still get better wounds with a simple in/out stab, because of that arcing movement pressing the edge against the side of the wound, widening it....So what do you think?.....Doc
This is a true statement. For example, I have done "defensive work" with non-locking folders (like the UK Penknife). I will add a caveat, though. In real life, it is not all proper technique and a sharp edge, it also depends on the ability to remain cool under pressure and apply the proper methodologies. I have seen many who were great in drills and even in sparring who could not perform in the "for real and true" when people were actually trying to kill them. Training and experience do tend to be the best predictors of behavior in real combat, though. I tell my students that training, methodology, and experience are the three parts of the triangle. You can train extensively in poor methodology and be in poor shape to handle a confrontation. You can have great methodology but fail to train adequately in that methodology. You can have a superior level of training in a great methodology and without the experience of actual confrontations always have to wonder whether everything will gel under combat conditions.2edgesword wrote:The power of a knife is the sharp edge. I'm all for strong locking technology but proper technique and a sharp edge will go a long way in avoiding undue stress on a locking mechanism.
stonyman wrote:You know I usually bypass threads like this because it is quite hard to not step on toes or alienate myself from the pack. In numerous incidents observed and participating in my share, kalig hit it with Skill, methodology and experience. The flaws that I see with many who draw inferences on the edge in or out debate walk blindly.
I have learned to laugh because they fail to utilize the strengths of each and pass one off as inferior to the other. The only truth that I am concerned with is going home along with my guys. Knives,guns etc are world changing meetings.......someone should be prepared to stay in this world while your assailant goes to visit another. You cannot stand still,swing your wonderful ideals of bladed combat and wish for the best!!??
Try an ugly rendition of rugby, closing with your enemy and saving your life. Time and time again many of you have heard things usually do not go as planned. You may have to fight your way through a blade to get to one.......it may, just may not be in our preferred grip. Establish your objectives now, seriously and find out what you are willing to base your life upon. I pray that whatever you chose...........Works!
Ay Stonyman: I couldn't think of anyone better to watch my back....Docstonyman wrote:Sorry knifebro, not your toes. I just see and hear too much misinformation out there. You and kalig and some of you others are not "MERE MORTALS!" Now, ok, back to the thread. If you are caught with small knives only..........a good incision, may just be what the Doc ordered! Hey, stab, to cut and cut to stab..........Win as decisively as possible!.............. Doc if I stubbed your toe, you mean I could not call timeout, jump in my truck and drive away leaving a puff of Chevy smoke? Seriously, your back is covered, bro! Take care all and God Bless!
224477 wrote:You have to choose targets more properly in winter, due heavier upper clothing.
Palms, legs, knee tendons, face, neck.. Depends on how serious the 'communication' needs to be.
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