do they make carbon fiber in different colors?

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do they make carbon fiber in different colors?

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and are they available for sale? just wondering :D
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I've seen it in red, blue, yellow, silver/gray and other colors made for car parts so I'm sure it's available.
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Well, I know they make silver. Spyderco used it for those hideous accent stripes on the Spyker and Sheffield Supply shows red and blue in their catalog.
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Potterma has used some colored CF on his mods before; I've seen red for sure, but I think he's used others too.

I think it is just the resin in the composite that has color; the fibers are still black. Anyone know different?
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Carbon itself does not come in colors you would have to paint it.
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The CF weave comes in pretty well any colour you can conceive of. Any reputable car or vehicle shop spcializing in mods to body work will have access to it.
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FIMS wrote:The CF weave comes in pretty well any colour you can conceive of. Any reputable car or vehicle shop spcializing in mods to body work will have access to it.
Yes it does but it is painted. Carbon is black.
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Klotzli has many different color CF handles

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Tony I don't know if you remember or not but about 2 to 3 month ago here on the Off Topic section the forum I had a thread about Swiss made Klotzli knives. It was the October 2001 issue of Knives Illustrated that had an article on the huge variety and extremely beautiful line of multi-colored carbon fiber folders that Klotzli had.

I know for a fact that Klotzli has at least 8 to 10 different colors of Carbon Fiber handles. But if there's any way we could pull up that thread I had on Klotzli knives there was quite a bit of discussion on that topic.
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YEs, its the weave that is coloured, carbon is black.
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FIMS wrote:YEs, its the weave that is coloured, carbon is black.
that. just add your color :p
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Yo Tony hope all is well,

Here is 2 Red CF spacers on my BMX cruiser
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Carbon Fibre comes in any colour you like as long as it's Black!
Carbon-Fibre is burnt strands of plastic (like fishing line).

Those coloured weaves you see are imitation 'Carbon Fibre', in a CF like weave. They can be cotton, fibreglass or poylester weaves that are dyed and coated with resin!
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Clawhammer wrote:Carbon Fibre comes in any colour you like as long as it's Black!
Carbon-Fibre is burnt strands of plastic (like fishing line).

Those coloured weaves you see are imitation 'Carbon Fibre', in a CF like weave. They can be cotton, fibreglass or poylester weaves that are dyed and coated with resin!
Clawhammer :( ... this is wrong in many ways

it is certainly not strands of burnt plastic, and usually imitation carbon fiber isn't weaved anything, it's almost always just some lame printed on pattern.
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Piercieve wrote:Clawhammer :( ... this is wrong in many ways
...please go on then...you can't just leave a statement like that :)

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Piercieve wrote:Clawhammer :( ... this is wrong in many ways

it is certainly not strands of burnt plastic, and usually imitation carbon fiber isn't weaved anything, it's almost always just some lame printed on pattern.
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im no pro with all is said about different color CFs but im leaning toward the fact that the pic i posted up above isnt actually CF and its probably some other type of woven material with a resin coat
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Clawhammer wrote:Carbon Fibre comes in any colour you like as long as it's Black!
If you are talking about the individual fibers, true, but carbon fibers can be woven with other fibers before being formed into composites which do not have to be black.
Clawhammer wrote:Carbon-Fibre is burnt strands of plastic (like fishing line).
Only in the same simplistic way that a diamond is coal that's been heated ans squashed. Very specific plastics "burnt" in a very specific manner.
Clawhammer wrote:Those coloured weaves you see are imitation 'Carbon Fibre', in a CF like weave. They can be cotton, fibreglass or poylester weaves that are dyed and coated with resin!
Again, a somewhat simplistic and deceptive statement. There are liars and cheats in every area of life, but fakes are still fakes. On the other hand, for many applications a "part" made from CF laminate only needs the rigidity of CF in one direction, normally its length. That would certainly be acceptable on a knife handle. For such applications, a weave which combines CF fibers running lengthwise with kevlar or glass fibers running at the width will retain the benefit of the CF while allowing color. So not every colored CF laminate is "imitation CF".
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See that's how you correct someone...and yet I'm still not "wrong in so many ways!" as it was so clumsily put .

I could've gone into inane detail, but the answer to the initial question was put ; carbon fibre only comes in black...anything else isn't carbon fibre! I'll accept if I am wrong about anything...just show me the evidence!!!!

(I'm still pretty taken aback that someone would have the gall to leave that in respone to one of my posts, then hide)! :mad: :confused:

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So not every colored CF laminate is "imitation CF"
I reckon I can argue that if you mix other (lesser) fibres into the composite...it's is no longer "Carbon Fibre".

Different carbon fibres can be made for elastisity or torsional strength (depending on autoclave temps) but I can see no practical reason to weave them together.
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Clawhammer wrote:I reckon I can argue that if you mix other (lesser) fibres into the composite...it's is no longer "Carbon Fibre".
You can argue it, but the counter argument would be that, as long as the CF filaments are oriented properly to provide the expected benefit, then the material is a legitimate CF composite.

Is 22K gold "gold"? How about 18K gold? Or 14K gold? or 10K gold?

From what I understand, just like those "impure" forms of gold, the fiberglass/CF and Kevlar/CF weaves have practical advantages over a CF/CF weave for some applications,.

Part of the problem is that the terms "Carbon Fiber" and "CF" have been abused and misused to signify not only the individual fibers, but the yarn, the fabric, composites, and laminates made from those fibers as well.
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