Hawaii following the Brits into knife ban inasanity!?!?

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Hawaii following the Brits into knife ban inasanity!?!?

Postby potterma » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:42 pm

If you are not aware of this, there is currently a bill in the Hawaii State Legislature that would BAN ALL pocket knives.

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There are links at the top of the page to download text of the actual bill.

Here is a link to the bill in pdf form

Here is an article in Blade_Mag. A letter from AKTI to the Senator (Ihara).


This stupid **** needs to be STOPPED!

Spread the word.

Write this Ihara character! ESPECIALLY if you are in HI.
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Postby Dr. Snubnose » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:34 am

Roger that..I'm gonna get the word out on this one for sure....Absurd!...Doc :D
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Postby clovisc » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:18 am

YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

calling CLB, calling CLB...!!!!
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Postby The Deacon » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:47 am

clovisc wrote:YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

calling CLB, calling CLB...!!!!
Chad already knows. He emailed me about it a week or so back.

In one sense it's a frightening vision of where things could go, a prime example of "be careful what you wish for", as it's the ultimate "no grey areas subject to interpretation by the cop on the beat or the judge" knife law.

Am hoping this is just a case of one isolated idiot in the legislature. Assuming the HI senate works like ours here in NY, any member can introduce a bill. Unless it's promoting something so politically incorrect that nobody even close to being in their right mind would touch it with a ten foot pole, someone else will "second" it out of courtesy, if nothing else. Getting it brought to a vote in committee is another story. Most of the really dumb ones don't even get that far. The few that do generally get voted down and or fail to get a matching bill submitted and passed in the other chamber, or the governor has the good sense to veto them.

None of that is to suggest anyone not bother to write Senator Ihara and express their dismay, just to put the bills chances of becoming law, at least this year, in perspective.
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Postby Lord vader » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:38 am

There are enough people out there that wont vote for a ban,There are enough knife lovers out there that wont let it happen.

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Postby Lord vader » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:02 am

I think that move would be political suicide,It would destroy there economy even further,lost tax revenue`s from all the knife sales,It would put the local knife dealers out of work,more laid off workers as a result,With the economy the way it is now.Like i said that would be political suicide for the person trying to push this rediculous ban.

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Postby Jamie n » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:13 am

Its pretty bad over here (UK) and the general attitude to knives from the media and the like is not a good one, but we don't have a total ban on carrying pocket knives.

Slip joints etc are allowed if they are under 3 inch (look no further than the UKPK) but for how long that remains, i don't know...

Anybody know why the government could be taking this stance, i always thought that the US and surrounding areas had a more relaxed view to carrying knives?

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Postby Lord vader » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:19 am

Jamie n wrote:Its pretty bad over here (UK) and the general attitude to knives from the media and the like is not a good one, but we don't have a total ban on carrying pocket knives.

Slip joints etc are allowed if they are under 3 inch (look no further than the UKPK) but for how long that remains, i don't know...

Anybody know why the government could be taking this stance, i always thought that the US and surrounding areas had a more relaxed view to carrying knives?
Most places here in the states has a 3" blade limit.It would be very difficult to push a complete ban on knives.Even if they did,there would still be a lot of people who will not give up there knives,and something like this would be an enforcement nightmare.

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Postby bh49 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:29 am

potterma wrote: there is currently a bill in the Hawaii State Legislature that would BAN ALL pocket knives.

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Sometimes I wonder: don't these politician have something more important to do? Especially in the current time.
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Postby Piet.S » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:00 am

bh49 wrote:Sometimes I wonder: don't these politician have something more important to do? Especially in the current time.
They are working on their own carreer, most importent.
This madness spreads like the plague, we also have a change of law coming.
We already know it will hit bali's and auto's but no one knows where it ends.
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Postby clovisc » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:28 am

sounds like knife-carrying hawaiians with a track record of voting need to start contacting their political representatives ASAP.
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Postby Lord vader » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:30 am

clovisc wrote:sounds like knife-carrying hawaiians with a track record of voting need to start contacting their political representatives ASAP.
Thats a good starting point. :)

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Postby dialex » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:58 pm

History has already shown that after banning knives criminality diminished tremendously... :rolleyes: I am glad to see that politicians have learned this lesson and keep up the good work. :mad:
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Postby wescobts » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:41 pm

It sounds so absurd, is this just pork ? or is this a general conception that knives/tools are at the root of violence ?
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Postby brandonreed2008 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:27 pm

wow.. their should be a revolution! :)
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Postby The Mastiff » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:36 pm

wow.. their should be a revolution!
Everybody should be involved in politics at some level. Consider it a civic duty. Not being involved in the process, sitting back and complaining makes no sense to me personally.

Yes, knives and guns, anything in the bill of rights needs to be defended, but more than that, you need to be involved somewhere, somehow. Legally, within the system I mean. Joe
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Postby spyderHS08 » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:01 am

Man I hope that does not go through, thats ridiculous!
Thank god for Kansas i guess! anything under 4 in here (besides butterfly knives and what not), so i can carry all my knives wherever I want :cool:
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Postby RIOT » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:34 am

im starting to hate our country in many ways, too many idiots with power and no sense, soon theyll ban guns and make people helpess while crooks with illegal guns stick us up, its the end times literally

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Postby zenheretic » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:08 am

bh49 wrote:Sometimes I wonder: don't these politician have something more important to do? Especially in the current time.
No they really don't. That is the problem with year around legislatures/congress. If they are in session they gonna be trying to make new laws, that is what they do. IMO, most of the good laws were already done long ago. Don't steal, don't kill, a modest tax to build roads and schools. Other than a bit of bookeeping such as adjusting laws to fit changes in technology they shouldn't be in session much. I'm always glad when lawmakers are on vacation, the longer the better. At least for that time period my rights are more less the same. ;)
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Postby Lord vader » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:27 am

RIOT wrote:im starting to hate our country in many ways, too many idiots with power and no sense, soon theyll ban guns and make people helpess while crooks with illegal guns stick us up, its the end times literally
I don`t hate our country,just certain individuals and people with power who are trying to infringe on our rights to carry. The person responsible for trying to push a total ban is definitely not thinking of the economic impact it would cause.There definitely not thinking this thing through.Someone just had a bee in there bonnet. :eek:


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